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Politics : A US National Health Care System?
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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (16083)4/4/2010 10:05:08 AM
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Since most would analyze the conditions and reach the opposite conclusion you do, it remains your burden to convince the rest of us with some solid evidence.

There isn't any evidence. No one keeps that kind of records.

We do know by anecdote that some people die sooner than they needed to because they don't have or won't spend the money to pay for some treatment that would probably extend their lives and have no insurer to pay it for them.

We also know by anecdote that some people die sooner than they needed because they had some treatment that killed or seriously harmed them that they would not have gotten had they not had insurance coverage to pay for it.

We don't know how many of each there are so we can't determine the net. There is simply no way to claim that covering more people will save lives. Or that it won't. Now Tim has stated that he thinks the latter is more likely and he offered his reasoning. You, OTOH, made an stark, absolute claim. "15,000 without insurance will die," you said. Not only are you claiming that lives will absolutely be saved, you claimed a specific number, and you did so without offering either evidence or rationale.

I submit that the burden is on you. Evidence or rationale. Pick one or both. Otherwise, you aren't even in competition for winning the argument.
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