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Politics : A US National Health Care System?

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To: RetiredNow who wrote (17496)4/30/2010 6:40:11 PM
From: Lane31 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) of 42652
 
You really should watch the movie called "Supersize Me".

Perhaps you missed "Fathead." It debunks "Supersize Me." And it's pretty funny.

You really think it is a myth that fatty foods contribute to obesity?

Of course fatty foods contribute to obesity when you eat too much of them. Non-fatty foods contribute to obesity when you eat too much of them, too. Fatty foods had been thought to be worse because a gram of fat has 9 calories whereas a gram of protein or sugar has only 4. Still are in some circles. But fats and proteins are more satiating than carbohydrates so it is easier to not overconsume. Overconsumption is the enemy, not the fat.

Americans have the incredible ability to rationalize anything to continue their over-consumption of everything from food to oil to you name it.

A little critical thinking here, please. Fatty food and food overconsumption are two different things. Even on a low fat diet people eat fat. The body needs fat to survive. The body needs protein to survive. The body does not need a bit of carbohydrate to survive. If you eat a low-fat diet, you are inevitably eating a high carbohydrate diet. Carbohydrates stimulate insulin, which fosters fat storage and metabolic syndrome. Overconsumption is more complicated than fatty foods. Not to mention good fats vs bad fats.

Exactly what evidence do you have that overturns all the volumes of studies that prove that they do contribute to obesity?

Volumes? Got some examples? I think those studies are a figment. You know what they say. If you repeat something often enough...

Hell, I can tell you that I personally have witnessed an incredible loss in weight when I shifted to low fat foods as a result of my high cholesterol several years ago. And now that low fat foods are a habit, I've kept that weight off.

And I can tell you that personally have witnessed an incredible loss in weight when I shifted to a low-carb diet. About 60% of my calories come from fat. I had followed the standard advice for decades, the same advice you got, and got fatter and fatter and sicker and sicker. Since I wised up I have lost 40% of my body weight, am registered in the National Weight Control Registry, and am off all my meds. My last HDL was 84 and my triglycerides, 41. Can you top that?

It smacks of seriously, willful blindness to me.

Willful blindness? Not hardly. I keep up with the literature. And I read the actual studies, not the sloppy reporting on them. The dogma is slowly being debunked.

I'm not trying to out-anecdote you here, just pointing out that the dogma wears no clothes. Most recently I've seen studies about different body types and how some respond better to one diet, others to a different diet. IIRC, about sixty percent are better suited to low carb and the rest to low fat. Of course those studies are new and need to re replicated.

I am happy for your success. Most people in the Registry lost and control their weight via low fat. So I think that an "I'm OK, you're OK" approach is the most reasonable one. Dogma puts round pegs into square holes, where they get fatter and fatter. I think that blaming it all on fatty foods is, at best, too simplistic. And it's really dangerous when made into public policy.

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