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Politics : A US National Health Care System?

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To: gg cox who wrote (17523)5/2/2010 12:59:15 PM
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We choose to balance what we can afford for the entire citizenry, not a selected elite.

I keep saying that Canada chose queues and you keep acknowledging that you chose queues yet you frame it as a challenge to me. I don't understand that. We're agreeing. That shouldn't trigger an objection, I wouldn't think.

Compare health care percentage GDP Canada and other single payer systems to US

That was never in dispute. I have never seen anyone argue that US health care costs are lower. What's your point?

Well, golley gee...sneering??

You seem to be looking down on the former US approach. Have I mistaken that?

No I haven't missed the subtleties

Good. Then we're agreed on yet another point, that most poor Americans have gotten necessary health care, but some have had to endure a certain amount of waiting and other inconveniences for it. Sort of like the waiting and inconveniences in Canada, except that waiting and inconvenience is universal in Canada, unlike here.

You imply that you understand that you could mitigate your waiting and inconveniences if you chose to spent the money for added capacity. We have just passed a law to mitigate our waiting and inconveniences by passing universal coverage, which will make our costs exceed yours by even more. It remains to be seen how that affects capacity and whether we will have traded off the waiting in crowded waiting rooms for some people with universal waiting in queues, like you.

It seems to me that your total inconveniences are greater than ours have been but yours occur for everyone whereas ours were not evenly distributed. It seems to me that you find that a sneer-worthy condition. I don't think that one can objectively come to that conclusion. To come to that conclusion you have to find some righteousness or nobility in suffering more so that the suffering is evenly distributed. It's a quasi-religious thing. I can understand that, but I can't find it objective or useful.

you know, the ones you referred to with cheese and sushi comments.

It seems we now have two posters who don't like examples and analogies...

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