To be honest, I never realized how far apart our perception of the world is.
>>All Stockman Scott and I have been saying for many days now is exactly what Ken Salazar said today.
I suppose you can speak for yourself only. we can all speak for ourselves. Furthermore, Ken Salazar has been not hired to merely talk. If he was only talking for all of these days, then at least I would be sure he was not doing what he was hired to do. Talk is cheap and easy. And it is good to see that Obama and others have left that talk to others while they were busy acting. I want my government to act rather than talk>>
koan: "I want my government to talk and act. I want my ogvernment to let me know what is going on. The Bush government also didn't talk, but it was because they were hiding everything and screwing everyone.
I want and expected to get massive transparency."
koan: "I do not bother reading anything in the WSJ as every single paper Murdock owns is a rag. Every one. He made his fortune on selling senational lies in tabloids in Australia and England. And you have seen plenty of FOX, yet you think they are more honest than the NYT's and LAT's??? Really?
>>I desist from prejudicial thinking. Murdoch came out openly supporting Obama. A good busnessman that he is, provides a great deal of autonomy to the CEO's of his enterprise. The American's buy the crap of what his news media puts out. But the Australian public do not and hence the difference in reporting quality of the newspapers he owns there and the ones he owns there. Murdoch knows how to make money by dishing out to people what they will buy.<<
koan: That is not prejudicial thinking, that is good thinking. Do you buy a used car from someone you know is a liar? Murdoch is a lying SOB and he has been after Obama from day one. Obama has been openly fighting with Murdoch for his lies from day one.
Murdock's Roger Ails who runs FOX and is some form of ogre has backed the Tea party movement to the hilt.
And to say Murdoch has been making money by dishing out to people what they will buy does not make it OK to do what Murdoch has done. I am amazed you are defending Murdoch.
I'll vet no one else on this thread will defend Murdoch. Let them speak up if they will."
koan: "If the government feels it needs to keep its foot on BP's neck that means they have done some really bad stuff and it sounds like you are calling the reporting of that bad stuff senationalism? If I am wrong I apologize.
Chinu: "You don't have to apologize. It is about making that progressives remain progressive, with a quality thought process and not get easily swayed by what the political extremists are putting out. We are part of a democartic process, and I and I hope you and all reserve the right to judge anything independently and not be influenced by what FOX or MSNBC or CNN have to say. And a sure test of that my decision being based on merits is not predictable. The right wing is not. Is the left wing as illogical as the right wing? I don't know.""
koan: "the difference between MSNBC, Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity is night and day. And I can usually tell if I am being lied to. And I can tell the difference between Palin, Beck and Rush; and Maddow, Olberman and mathews. The former are liars and function a tthe high school levl at est and the other three ae honest people who think with sophisticated minds.
I have enough knowledge to tell the difference.
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