"I don't agree with that. It is very simple really. Most conservatives are religous. There is not one single fact or piece of logic to support religion."
There are religious myths that have been dispelled based on gathering and sharing of evidence about how the world works. Much of religion is allegorical and so finding practical explanations through scientific revelation rarely completely dispels such notions. One of the purposes of religion is to provide a principled guide to live by and as you track the principle, the predictions, and the actual consequences, by golly it turns out religions agree and predict with accuracy what will happen if you don't live your life according to principles of decency. The record of our history is replete with the factual evidence supporting the common guidelines provided in world religions. It reasonable and logical to conclude religions are providing sound and sensible principled guide lines to live by.
And all scientists are trained to go where the facts lead them. The facts lead ot evolution. Period. who woul dargue with that?
No one that I know argues with that, even though I've often seen you claim that religious people do. Not with where the facts lead at least. The facts demonstrate the function of adaptation and survival. It is observable in nature and replicable under controlled circumstance. There is no argument although there may be some encamped extreme nutcases who refuse to even consider it, it isn't fair to the majority of religious people to lay that on them.
Origins is another matter. You cannot get to what we have now without some common elements that persist throughout what we call 'time,' including consciousness and awareness of being. Glad to discuss that any time you want but it is beyond the scope of physical or even temporal science. I can accept the limitations of knowing things available only by scientific method and I can accept the limitations of knowing things only by thinking about principles of consciousness, and meaningfulness beyond the surface appearances of a temporal universe. We live in a universe of limitations, that is a fact. I cannot accept limiting my own ability to know things by denying either source of knowledge altogether either out of loyalty to one or to the other. I don't believe in forced choices.
>>>It is only very recently that humans discoved "The Age of Reason" and been replacing myth with reason. "
So it would seem, yet whenever we uncover ancient texts and learn to interpret them we find we aint as smart as we thunk we were.
"REason, less, is what gave us civilzation and democracy!
Yes, reason is inescapable and purpose binds us in a civilized humanity. No one is more grateful for that than me in times like this, when hope based in reason and a belief that all human beings carry an innate understanding of the truth about our condition will deliver us from the animus we hold for one unto another. This reason and this civilization has also convinced us we have cause to nuke millions with the push of a button. We've done that and we are perfectly capable of repeating it. So lets not get to arrogant about how much we are improved over our ancient ancestors. Yes, I know people have slaughtered each other in the name of religion too. |
