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Politics : Politics for Pros- moderated

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To: alanrs who wrote (370952)7/1/2010 2:38:07 AM
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OK....Let's pick Africa to be a test case for open borders....there has been sophisticated societies there eons ago, and yet....we see what we see today. Let's pretend for a few minutes and in today's time frame, that all of Africa is open for anyone to come and go throughout the whole continent and squat wherever they please, and expect that government to cater to their every need and want, at no cost to the squatting person/group.

Can you visualize anything possible and positive happening there given that there are multitudes of people today that are living, breathing creatures? ???? Most of them don't seem to get alone with their nearest town, in a small piece of whatever is defined as a country today, let alone the whole continent.

Pretend that what you wrote below is Africa and not the US...and then add the additional compounding problems that are actually in Africa today... Do you see open borders working there? Or most of the people of all the various countries there today getting along better than they do today because open borders are the magic panacea?

Shoot, two tiny countries in Europe today, Monaco and Luxemburg, are totally separate countries, with different leaders, and ways of life. These two bitty countries are smaller than many of our cities.

If they don't want to change for whatever reason, what makes anyone think open borders will work anyplace else in the world any time soon?

I'd like it to be otherwise, that everyone on earth could just get along, and share and share alike. Don't think that will ever happen.....And unfortunately, we have several thousand years of combined experience that tells us that is so. Wishful thinking just won't cut it.

Edit: And I'm more than willing to accept that we have an unsustainable welfare system, destructive drug laws, and a porous boarder. That is reality. Just question if this is the best way to go about things. The immigration laws were different when our ancestors came here and the immigration problem was different. The drug laws were different 100 years ago and the drug problem was different. The welfare system didn't exist 100 years ago and the poverty problem was different. Not sure if different is better or worse, but the nature of the problems seems directly associated with the nature of the laws.
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