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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: Paul Smith who wrote (140177)7/2/2010 5:20:54 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) of 542958
 
I don't think so.

You say this in response to my assertion that today's Rep Party is qualitatively different from the one Clinton faced. It would help if you made the case for the similarity.

Clinton started out going hard to the left with issues like gays in the military and health care and didn't have much success. If he had continued on that path, he would have been a failed President that only achieved things that he could do on a pure partisan basis.

Now you are arguing against yourself. You just asserted that Clinton was a more effective president than Obama. Yet now you are arguing that during comparable periods, actually, Obama is better. Which is the only way you can make the argument.

Ignoring his personal failings, Clinton was not a failed President because he shifted from the left to the Center (unclear that Obama will do this - he might, but I doubt it). Once he moved to the center, Clinton had big success with moderate issues (not liberal) like Welfare reform and NAFTA.

Nor would I argue he had a "failed" presidency. But, to repeat, at comparable points, he's not surpassing Obama. Your argument. As for the quality of Clinton's presidency, it left much to be desired. Your high point are my low points. But compared to his successor, GWB, there is genuinely no comparison. And I suspect that's what accounts for his popularity.
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