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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: Paul Smith who wrote (140848)7/15/2010 1:52:56 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) of 542889
 
What proportion of all taxes are paid by the undefined rich?

Wrong question. What is the rate at which they pay taxes? Relative to the end of the Clinton administration? Just to take one arbitrary comparison point.

You're simply ignoring, for ideological reasons, the often reported Warren Buffet comment, that his secretary pays a higher federal income tax rate than he does. Let alone the difference if you added in ss taxes.

How does the federal government go about closing obvious corporate tax loopholes? Another good question.

What percentage of the population currently pay zero Federal income tax?

Boy does that reveal the ideological bit you are on. We started this conversation with my argument that states in fiscal crises should look to comprehensive solutions, which included putting more taxes for the wealthy and for business on the table. You are still trying to frame it to take that portion of shared sacrifice off the table.

As for the last sentences, the unions have gotten too much, the bulk of that argument is built out of cherry picking the most egregious examples. I don't know a single public sector work, and I know quite a few, who will get a pension that fair minded person would consider a problem. In fact, to the contrary.

Unions are not the problem here. They will work with politicians so long as politicians are playing fair. It's the absence of that last element that leads to the current standoffs.
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