Frank, this particular discussion (and replies) was one of many on the subject of energy and future implications. There are more to choose from. What's interesting, indeed fundamental to the conclusion about energy is what follows from it. I've spoken about this in other discussions here: for centuries our advance has been empowered by unlimited access to cheap power, by growth and essentially, by exploitation.
We've also spoken about the decay of huge, complex models, and how this time is transformational in ways seldom experienced by humanity. Until lately, I haven't seen any one writer place the dynamics in a multidisciplinary context.
Expected that this forecast, repeated again, will attract derision. People have never known anything else; their present understanding and past experience is an expectation, a belief, an ideology, a religion, a world-view. To those with open minds, those who wish to understand many previous references to "fin de siècle" dynamics underlying current events, I commend the following:
"Systemic Fear, Modern Finance and the Future of Capitalism"
bnarchives.yorku.ca
"Capitalism may survive this systemic crisis, as it survived that of the 1930s. As before, this survival may require a significant transformation – one that restructures the entire architecture of power, including its material technology and dominant ideology – and such transformation is certainly possible."
Jim |