SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : American Presidential Politics and foreign affairs

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (44378)7/28/2010 11:57:33 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 71588
 
The one statement "The wealth continues to be transferred away from the wealthy, not to the wealthy" was clearly yours... (I'm sure we both agree that that is the case.)

Yes, and it was included in my quote of you to show the claim that your calling ridiculous.

Its my statement but your statement was about my statement, and in isolation looses its meaning, because out of context "that" could refer to anything. In context it obviously refers to my statement. I provided the context. I don't know why your are upset about that.

What evidence have you for it, showing that "wealth" "continues to be transferred away from the wealthy"?

The US tax code is a "progressive" system. Also even an actual flat tax (and one with no personal exemption, so everyone really pays the same percentage) would still transfer wealth away from the wealthy, as they would pay more dollars in taxes than the non-wealthy, while at the same time they are not eligible for many transfer programs.

A change in distribution of wealth ("the rich getting richer") is not the same thing as a transfer of wealth. The fact that the rich pay taxes means that wealth is being transferred from them. Even a dollar in tax liability for a billionaire would be a transfer away from that person, and would still be so if he was doubling his wealth every year without his tax payments going up by a penny.

As for net transfers, the wealthy pay a strong majority of federal government taxes, while many transfer programs are limited to the poor, or to the poor and near poor, or to those groups and the middle class. Those that are not income limited apply to all, and the non-wealthy are numerous, so much of the money from those programs still goes to the non-wealthy.
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext