Tim...I pretty much agree with all things you post and read pretty much all of them... however in the post I was responding to I felt that there was a bit of appeasement there, just my perception and may not at all be what you intended. My apology if you were offended. I see islam as a culture more so than a religion, A culture that uses religion as a means to control every aspect of an individuals life.
IMO islam is the greatest threat the free world has ever faced to their way of life.
You said this...
..."Not trying to insult the beliefs of a whole large group (including moderates, and those who aren't moderate but who oppose the violence and force of the Islamo-fascists), both of whoom are subject to attacks from and sometimes oppression by the Islamo-fascists), for the actions of the subset. A tiny perpetrates the violence or is closely affiliated with or orders it, or fairly directly supports it. A modest subgroup provides money or material support less directly without being part of any terrorist group or militia or repressive government. A large subset, but not the whole, endorses at least to a degree the terrorism, opprression and other violence.
What to react with military force, and also police and intelligence operations against the tiny subset? Fine. Police and intel ops against the funders of those groups? Fine. Insults and denunciation of the large group that accepts the ideas and supports the violence of the terrorists and other violent Islamofascists? Well I can see it as justified. But why attack those who are oppressed by such people? Certainly opposing such attacks, or severe insults doesn't even vaguely represent turning the other cheek. "...
This is somewhat like I was saying should be done in reference to returning insults.
These islamic terrorists do not operate in a vacuum...they have support in every country that they are trying to take over some control. I can only assume they get support from their own kind...this has been proven over and over in USA.
The area I hi-lited above is pretty much what I am talking about...I don't recall any moslum protests in America against islamic terrorism...I do recall many attempts at testing American laws by so called moderates to further islam goals in this part of the free world...The " flying imams " who won their case comes to mind. Little by little the creep continues.
You said this...."
The "Everyone Draw Mohammad Day" idea is a bit better. It doesn't involve destroying anything, and its a direct response to specific threats. Still my thought is "everyone denounce terrorists and Islamo-facists", rather than attacking all members of the faith."....
There were a good number of infidels murdered over a few cartoons of mohamed, because of preceived insult to all of islam...." Everyone Draw Mohammad Day " is also an insult to all of islam, maybe even more of an insult than burning a koran.MO islam, all of them MUST understand that they are not better humans than all others who do not believe their barbaric beliefs.
I said this..."IMO. islam, all of them MUST understand that they are not better humans than all others who do not believe their barbaric beliefs."....
Your response..." All of them? All billion to a billion and a half or so? When are you going to get all of any groups that size to share any opinion, other than perhaps "the sun is bright", or "the earth is round", and maybe not even that much."...
I was referring to those in America and the rest of the free world.. Not the billion and a half or so the inhabit part of Planet Earth..perhaps I was not clear on this. In any case I see no humor in your reply...maybe I just got no sense of humor.
What I said..."I think that any means must be used to make islam in the free world understand that if they wish to be accepted as a religion in what is left of the free world they MUST work to stop the killing and terrorism in the name of their religion.".... |
