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Politics : A US National Health Care System?

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To: dybdahl who wrote (18833)8/14/2010 8:56:56 AM
From: Lane31 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) of 42652
 
The key to understanding this, is that, as long as there is nothing damaged, the property owner doesn't lose any value, while the freedom to move around is a huge value.


That's a value judgment. My values differ. The freedom to be king of your castle is really high up there on my list. I have to put up with other people when I leave my property. On my property, I don't. We all need a sanctuary, although perhaps some more than others. That doesn't mean that I won't share my space, only that I get to decide whether to share it.

I agree that the freedom to move around is a huge value. But that freedom ends at someone else's property lines. Move around in public places all you want. Leave my back yard (if I had one) alone.

so if the same rules would be applied here, it would produce more damage.

There is a big difference between letting someone camp on your property and their having the right to do so. Most people in the US used to graciously grant access to their property. That has diminished quite a bit due to experience with damage. Most people are pretty nice and will respect other folks' property but there are enough that will trash the place to make property owners wary. They will judge whether to grant access based upon their impression of the people who want access.

There is also a difference in the US that cannot be ignored and that is liability. If your camp stove blows up on someone else's property or you cut yourself putting up your tent, there could easily be a lawsuit. Why risk that?

you may only pick the amount of berries that can be in a typical hat.

Harvesting even one berry from someone else's berry batch is theft. And it's damned rude. What if the homeowner was counting on those berries for breakfast? For shame!

ownership means that the government gives you some rights over a geographic area

If the ownership has attached some covenants, then so be it. Many suburban and urban properties come with covenants. Usually they involve basketball hoops, lawns, and colors. I cannot imagine a covenant that would allow trespassers and thieves. <g>
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