Roger, as I said in a previous message. I was going to delay further research of CTXS based on some apparently strong fundamentals cited by Tom. But the ratios are so outrageusly high (p/e: 60+ p/r 20+ notice that I am talking about high ratios not overvalued stock at thispoint in the game.) that I am very tempted to short the stock as a market hedge(IMO it seems to beat the hell oyt of shorting SPY's if "hell breaks loose" in NASDAQ:
So far I found:
MSFT owns 6.0% of the company (referred to as mayor stockholder in 10Q fillings) source DEF 14/A 4/4/97 A list of mayor stockholders as of that date: Microsoft Corporation............... 1,626,266 6.0% One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052 Putnam Investments, Inc.(2)......... 1,495,500 5.5 One Post Office Square Boston, MA 02109 American Century Companies, 1,900,000 7.0 Inc.(3)............................ Twentieth Century Tower 4500 Main Street Kansas City, MO 64111 Warburg Pincus Counsellors, 2,616,952 9.7 Inc.(4)............................ 466 Lexington Avenue, 10th Floor New York, NY 10017 Pilgrim Baxter & Associates 1,403,800 5.2 Ltd.(5)............................ 1255 Drummers Lane, Suite 300 Wayne, PA 19087 Roger W. Roberts(6)................. 331,796 1.2 Edward E. Iacobucci(7).............. 305,217 1.1 Barry J. Dockswell(8)............... 51,278 * James P. Tarlton(9)................. 180 * Michael F. Passaro(10).............. 154,484 * Bruce Chittenden(11)................ 67,668 * James J. Felcyn, Jr.(12)............ 55,912 * Mark B. Templeton(13)............... 85,684 * Kevin R. Compton(14)................ 35,469 * Stephen M. Dow...................... 21,486 * Robert N. Goldman(15)............... 33,334 * Gregory B. Maffei................... 3,600 * Tyrone F. Pike(16).................. 72,593 * All executive officers, directors 1,218,701 4.4% and nominees as a group(17)........
To this you have to add Putnam SC13G/A 7/10/97 3,220,072 11.9%
and our Friends at Fidelity SC13G/A 11/7/97 3,564,700 11.4%
Now this may explain the tremendous price appreciation in this stock. It was a pitty all this AH were betting against you!
Well all these wise guys buying so many shares tells me: We are up against bunch of geniouses and a tremendous company. Or just a bunch of idiots that moved the price up to outrageous levels? IMO the second is the more likely scenario.
I continue my search now into the most recent 10Q filled: In this I found from the income statement that of the 75MM they received from Gates so Through 6/30/97 they had recognized ONLY (2.125MM be aware the rest of the revenue was from other lines!):
Net revenues attributable to a stockholder $2,125,000
The balance of the $75 million was recorded into two liabilities (one current one non-current) that will eventually go to the income statement as revenue.
From the 6/30/97 Balance sheet:
Deferred revenue: 3,058,319 (this is also a revenue cushion that will be reported in following quarters but not part of MSFT's payment)
Current-portion of deferred revenues on contract with stockholder: 15,000,000 (this is the portion of the 75MM that will become revenue within the next 4 quarters)
Deferred revenues on contract with stockholder: 57,875,000 (This is a non-current liability will start becoming revenue one year from 6/30/97)
So Roger: my take so far is that so far they have not yet recognized most of the revenue and the possibility to manage revenues in the next three years give this company an incredible edge in achieving,and even beating estimates (notice that this what MSFT does to manage earnings)
I will continue tomorrow but so far... Still will not short despite the outrageuos ratios!
Pancho |