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Politics : Evolution

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To: Greg or e who wrote (9416)11/3/2010 4:31:46 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (4) of 69300
 
“Of course everything that has a beginning, MUST have a CAUSE.

It is always unpleasant to realize that one has been baited into a “discussion” with a dullard. It inevitably leads to spoon-feeding which is certainly an annoyance and a burden on my time.

You clearly are clueless about the entire issue and did not comprehend either the text or the context of the article. You’ve entirely skirted the opportunity to discuss ID and have fallen head first into the silly old prime mover argument.

If you believe that everything has a beginning, then the invention of some invisible something to expressly contradict the truth of your premise is merely gratuitous. It has no explanatory value. It says nothing about anything except your imagination and your superstitious bent.

If you believe that everything (EXCEPT one invisible something that you have invented) has a beginning, then you are simply pronouncing the conclusion as an unsupported belief.

If you are smart enough to admit that you don’t have a clue whether or not everything begins--or what that even means--or whether space, time, and matter (any or all) is endless like the circle or the pentagram--or begins and ends some nowhere and nowhen and no place…like an (ending) line--then you would also be smart enough to understand that nothing in your uncertainty or ignorance calls for anything in your imagination or the imagination of billions of other people to have demonstrable truth value.

So what do you believe? I can start with whatever premise you like because what you contend is quite null and vacuous. Does everything that begins have a beginning as you so wisely wonder? Or shall we each invent an imaginary something that does not have a beginning or a cause? And we can then give that something our favorite eye colors and a wonderful Photoshop nose with hair that never needs cutting and never ever even got started growin--lordy be! LOL!!

And if another tribe of people are imagining something different--well, you can ride a horse, can’t you??

Start us off with a premise! How good of you!
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