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To: Solon who wrote (9420)	11/3/2010 5:34:02 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) of 69300

You are now addressing a common tripping point. So here are a few clues which we can account for. * Things that begin must have a beginning and be caused to begin. * Things that begin seem to have a beginning a middle and an end. * Things that are observable have limitations which qualify them as things. * The concepts of eternity and infinity are rational which opens the door for consideration of unlimited being. * And of course as you already provided the example of a circle, we have something that is both observable and without beginning or end, only measurable by using the magic of PI. * Experience may be based on logic but it is also filled with paradox, irony, chaos, ideas which are richly multifacited and phenomenalogical. * Can two opposing ideas both be true ... of course they can. Limited being and unlimited being are opposing ideas which are equally valid. We can experience a limited life time and an eternity. We can live a life time, consider history, and wonder about the future all without ever leaving the present moment. * Dr Zorba was cool. youtube.com "If you are smart enough to admit that you don’t have a clue whether or not everything begins--or what that even means--or whether space, time, and matter (any or all) is endless like the circle or the pentagram--or begins and ends some nowhere and nowhen and no place…like an (ending) line--then you would also be smart enough to understand that nothing in your uncertainty or ignorance calls for anything in your imagination or the imagination of billions of other people to have demonstrable truth value. So what do you believe? I can start with whatever premise you like because what you contend is quite null and vacuous. Does everything that begins have a beginning as you so wisely wonder? Or shall we each invent an imaginary something that does not have a beginning or a cause? And we can then give that something our favorite eye colors and a wonderful Photoshop nose with hair that never needs cutting and never ever even got started growin--lordy be! LOL!!"

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