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Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion
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To: koan who wrote (9014)12/15/2010 3:56:48 PM
From: Jacques Chitte2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) of 10087
 
>Well, that is fine and dandy, but you also need a fully functioning society. And that requires people giving up some of their freedoms. <

That is precisely the logic used by the new German regime in 1933.
Quis custodiet custodes?

If we look at the history of the last 100 years, the societies that reduced civil freedoms in the interest of rendering the collective more efficient did not stay successful. The Sovs ran themselves down against the internal contradictions of their system. The fascists were so just plain nasty that they elicited something not unlike an international immune response. The Chinese ... are inscrutable. (smile)

Jefferson said something that I cherish: A just society grants the people the ultimate right of revolution. That is to say, if the government becomes pathological, the citizens have the right to disband that government. I believe that such a right is at the very heart of a functioning society.

The right to revolution has no teeth without a provision that locates the instrumentality of power with the citizen. That is why i am aghast at the appellate courts trying to soft-pedal Article 2 into some sort of collective right. I will jealously guard my right to kill ... until the reciprocal right of nasty people to harm me has been rendered null. And there are nasty people at all levels of society.
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