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To: Petz who wrote (25851)	11/12/1997 10:43:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (4) of 1580614

Petz, <Can you certify that you, Paul Engel and StockMan are not receiving compensation from Intel?> <If you cannot certify this, why should we believe anything you say. You sound like Fuchi demanding proof that I am an AMD shareholder. Get a life. I say we should let AMD investors make their on decisions based on "the rest of the story". <What I meant to say in the post you quoted was that all bugs that had any possibility of causing problems with commercial software had been fixed> You posted here that AMD's erratta list had been removed from their website and "all K6 bugs have been fixed". This is the kind of misinformation AMD investors get here if no one were here to correct this kind of nonsense. I did not call you a liar, I simply pointed out that you were being lazy in your research. AMD investors deserve better than that. You claim now that the existing K6 bugs are of no significance and that no system has ever been brought down because of them. Really? AMD says the system behaviour will be unpredictable, you seem to disagree and insist you can predict the behaviour. You seem to be calling AMD a liar now. The K6 FPU bug, and your apology for it, sounds just like Intel's response to the FDIV bug that caused a $500 million recal. Intel claimed that hardly anyone would be affected, just like you are claiming now. It's clear that you have 2 standards. One for Intel and a second for AMD. Intel gets trashed for bugs and AMD gets excuses. It takes years of operation of 100+ million Intel chips to turn up obscure bugs and you claim the K6 is clean when hardly anyone is using it. This is denial Petz. AMD investors deserve better than this and you're just going to have to get used to a contrarian view. Why not let AMD investors decide for themselves? AMD investors - is the K6 bug free? Read AMD's words for yourself. Advanced Micro Devices Inc. has disclosed on its Web site (www.amd.com/K6/k6docs/revgd.html) a number of bugs in its K6 processor that could cause unpredictable system behavior or math errors under rare conditions. Several of the bugs have no immediate software fixes available and will be corrected in future manufacturing revisions. In one case involving the floating-point unit, the company has identified six source and destination operand patterns that erroneously result in a zero when performing multiply operations. amd.com EP

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