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Pastimes : Zeitgeist Movement and The Venus Project

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From: Kitskid4/25/2011 1:20:00 AM
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Written by paradigm not Kitskid:

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TZM TVP Divorce!

Yes, after a day of reflecting on all of this, it does indeed seem as if Peter has undertaken an epic backpedaling adventure. Let's remember that PJ was happily licking Fresco's boots up until the day he got dumped by the old man. As a purely reactionary measure, it seems PJ is finally acknowledging what needs to be done.

I think the main reason he has been so dense and ineffective when it came to running his "movement" ..i.e. clone army, lies within his own sense of self-importance and how he puffs his own skillset as the primary importance of TZM. His main skills consist of: film-making, advertising and music. Naturally being the "leader" of the cause, he emphasizes the importance of his own skills over the real catalog of talents and disciplines (the real science him and Jacque vaguely ramble on and on about) needed to pursue the project of societal redesign. The latter he deferred to TVP, an "organization" espousing JF's vague designs and broad social ideals, an effort that ultimately has failed to gain reach far outside the old man's little Jetson's retreat in Venus, Fl. I find it funny that Fresco is NOW finally admitting the type of occupations that need to be on-board the project to make it work. Prior to PJ hijacking the nowhere project, Fresco was all-too happy gloating about the value of free-thinking generalists while downplaying credentialed specialists as nothing more than mindless cogs in the monetary machine.

Fresco's own deep-rooted hatred of "credentialism" is rooted in his own background as an industrial designer with no formal degree or training. Certainly, we can't deny the man is highly intelligent and a great critical thinker (though few of his ideas are original). He can clearly see the forest for the trees unlike the majority of the population. Just like PJ, Fresco over-emphasizes the role of his own skillset in terms of social-industrial redesign. Because of his lack of credentials, his career advancement had consistently been hampered, thus this particular issue being a real sour spot for him.

Let's go back even further to Fresco's own ideological predecessor, Howard Scott, the primary founder of the Technocracy movement which spanned in noticeable popularity roughly from 1919 - the late 1930s. Scott was a ditch-digger who passed himself off as an Engineer. (sound familiar?) He became a free-thinking bohemian type and settled in NYC's Greenwich Village where he happened to live in the same apartment building as the eccentric, rouge economist/social theorist Thorstein Veblen. Scott befriended Veblen and was heavily influenced by his radical ideas on how Capitalism was becoming a total contradiction in terms of what the modern industrial efficiency was capable of providing for society. Scott pretty much stole a lot of Veblen's original ideas and subsequently formed the Technocracy movement (mostly based on those ideas) which gained a quick following in the 1920s and really took off once once the Great Depression was in full-swing. Scott was an egotistical personality who tried to rule the movement like a dictator (sound familiar?) and ended up alienating many of the other great minds (some of whom would splinter off and form sub-movements...sound familiar??) on-board. Just past the peak of the height of Technocracy's popularity in the 1930s, Jacques Fresco became a member and absorbed the movement's key ideas but quickly left due to a personal beef with Scott (serious ego-clashing, most likely).

So yeah pretty much Fresco ripped off Technocracy, (in addition to Bucky Fuller, Santiago Caltrava and maybe even Walt Disney..haha) who's founder ripped off the great Thorstein Veblen. There's clearly been an ego pattern established with these otherwise gound-breaking, Post-Capitalist movements.
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