"...just about everything you wrote is not supported by history."
Whose history, Bearded One? Which version, which revision? One of my wives does not understand my fascination with history, she says it is "...nada m s mentiras, porquer¡as" [...lies, swineties]. Sort of like Henry Ford's "History is bunk", I find it hard to refute.... sort of like I find it difficult to believe that there exists no Arab population native and indigenous to the portion of the planet currently controlled by the state of Israel.
"Jews have been living there in large numbers for centuries and were known as Palestinians until the Muslims declassified them as such..."
Granted, the Ottomans, like most empires, were harsh and ruled in such arbitrary fashion as suited their purposes at the time. Just a guess; I'll bet more peoples than the Jews had reason to complain, and about the Crusaders as well....
"... the Jews who immigrated pre 1947 moved onto land which they purchased from the land's owners..."
Yes, I understand this to be the case. They used economic power, not military power, at that time.
"Israel didn't control the West Bank or Gaza from 1948 to 1967 and that didn't stop the Arabs from launching attack after attack on them..."
No, it didn't. "Control" is the central issue, though, eh? Could anyone reasonably expect the Arabs to enjoy Jewish control?
"...while some Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza have indeed been struggling for independence some of them are struggling to eliminate Israel completely...
Yes, rabid demagoguery ranting selective history on both sides.
"...until Arafat decides which side he's on and helps with such issues as people blowing themselves up on commuter buses, the Israelis have a right to protect their citizenry."
By shooting Arab seven-year-olds? .............. Ok, ok, that's unfair, the seven-year-old was "collateral damage", but my point is that until these people learn to get along, there will be a great deal more collateral damage.
"We should move this to another thread..."
It's questions like this of which Big Kahunas are made, but I tire of it too. I do stick by my original point;
It's all in the point of view.
...and a hypothetical corollary; To the mighty, might makes right. To the rest of us, it is real scarey shit.
No wish here to offend, B.O. or Haim, I am neither Arab nor Jew, just don't want the world blown up over some stupid ideology or religious clash.
................ Vaya con D¡os .................. marcos |