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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: tejek who wrote (625489)8/22/2011 4:58:57 PM
From: i-node1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) of 1572883
 
>> I think war is rarely righteous.

They're ALL righteous if the outcome is to defeat the aggressor, provided the aggressor was in the wrong. One can argue that the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor wasn't righteous, but only a fool would argue that firebombing Tokyo followed by the use of the Bomb on Japan wasn't righteous.

>> However, I do think if you can pull down a notorious dictator without losing American lives its a blessing.

Sometimes you can, other times you can't, and still other times you don't know until you try. You cannot always know. For example, the Gulf War was righteous by any measure, yet going into it many people firmly believed we would take a serious pounding. As it turned out, we defeated the enemy in that instance easily and with minimal American casualties.

OTOH, we thought the Iraq War would be easy and it turned out to be difficult. These outcomes are seldom predictable.

In general, aggressors tend not to be aggressors if they think they're going to be defeated. So, in that sense, one side or the other almost always "misunderestimates" the power or the weakness of the other.

>>> When all is said and done, we will have spent trillions in Iraq:

As your own link indicates, over ten years we've spent < 800B, and it is difficult to see how we spend another $200B before we get out, although it could happen. Of course, a rational analysis would have to offset the savings we have achieved there, but that's not a worthwhile exercise.

>>> And that does not include the cost of Bush's Iraqi embassy which cost nearly a trillion dollars alone . . . I mean who the fukk builds a trillion dollar embassy except dumb GOP twats!

OMFG. You ACTUALLY do not know the difference between a billion and a trillion. Why in hell am I wasting time with you?


And you don't think the Libyans have suffered??? They fought the good fight.........with pickup trucks and rifles. The Iraqis have yet to get to that point.


You don't know what you're talking about. In terms of the sheer effort and difficulty and commitment the Iraqis have put 100x as much into their freedom as have the Libyans.
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