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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (79604)9/14/2011 4:13:56 PM
From: Maurice Winn1 Recommendation  Read Replies (4) of 218857
 
The point of Tradable Citizenship is to personally own the assets of the state. Your solution confers no ownership of state assets on the individual: < Technically you can already possess tradeable citizenship.

Just put all of your assets in a Corporate structure.. Personally own nothing..
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States are owned in the same way that tribes in NZ owned their "countries". They were commons owned by the Chief who used it all as he saw fit, allowing members of the tribe a piece of the action if they backed him. Hippie communes work the same way. The collective tribe owns the property with the boss or tribal votes deciding who gets what. Anyone who leaves a tribal area, or Hippie commune, leaves with nothing. Same for countries. They take only their few personal possessions.

I worked 12 hour shifts non stop pouring concrete to build a valve tower for Auckland's water supply. I have done soil strength testing to help build electricity supply canals. And roads. And worked 8 stories up building scaffolding to build a concrete building [before safety was invented and scaffolders worked like monkeys in the sky]. I have paid heaps of taxes which have paid for all sorts of other public assets such as airports, hospitals, roads, spectrum management, legal systems, biosecurity, border control, international security, and the vast panoply of creating and building a modern civilized country with all mod cons.

When a migrant shows up and is allowed to use all that stuff, they crowd me out. The cause traffic jams on the road, fill the emergency rooms, burn down public housing, murder my family, use the available water so supply runs out, clutter the courts and don't even thank me for my efforts. If I leave, they take outright possession without even having to share it with me.

One of the most laughable instances is Vector [electricity supply]. Those were built as community projects over 100 years. They were owned in legal limbo. In the 1990s, the government decided to make them into commercial entities, so they corporatized them and gave the shares to the people who had electricity accounts at the time in the respective areas. But in the case of Auckland, my area, a communist concept was adopted. The shares were given to a public trust which pays profits to the residential electricity account holders at the time the payment is made each year. Vector has customers all over the place, not just the old area [being corporate they conduct business to make as much money as they can].

So some illegal migrant makes it to NZ, or a legal one who pays no entry fee, just has to wangle their way in by having a good friend in the right place or tell some good lies or pay a bit of bribery or something. Some get in totally legally. If they rent a place in Vector's area and get an electricity account, one day they get a cheque in the mail. "Huh? What's this?" They have contributed nothing to building the electricity network but they score the value of the assets built up over 100 years. "Hmmm... NZ good place. Me like."

Because NZers are stupid, they vote for policies which result in them being unable to afford to live in the old Vector area, so it's being taken over by migrants. NZers go to live in the cheaper hinterlands or crowd up in low rent accommodation in the old area. We are the new Maoris. The same process is happening now as then.

Contrary to TJ's and BS's ignorance, the English didn't murder Maoris and take their land. While there were some conflicts, normally they tempted them with money, muskets and anything else the Maoris wanted in exchange for land the Maoris had no use for anyway, but it would be useful to have the Pakeha living next door. The same thing is happening now. The dumb local yokels are being offered a few bucks for their houses [nothing for their roads, schools, hospitals and other public assets] by swarms of got rich quick and sometimes even legally Made in China migrants. The money is too tempting to decline. Chinese are not murdering the local yokels. They buy them out. Hey presto, ownership of NZ, passport to freedom away from China. Thanks for the Vector dividends too.

The Kiwis are going to get a shock when the new migrants don't vote to keep the aging Baby Boomer Kiwis in the state funded manner to which they have become accustomed. China will soon be instructing, "Your quota of migrants from China is too low. Increase it. We want to keep importing your products but you need to make afew changes."

NZ should form Tradable Citizenships and sell them at the rate of about 10,000 or 20,000 per year. The economic boom would be phenomenal. The migrants would be good people who would not wish to commit crimes and forfeit their citizenships in whole or part. At 10,000 per year, that should bring in about $10 billion or $20 billion a year. And it would get people watching the "share price" to see how the country is improving. If a Kiwi moves to Australia, they could sell their citizenship and buy one from Oz [one would have to be careful or become a stateless person]. At present if they leave to escape the muck here, they get nothing.

Putting personal assets into corporate form affects none of that.

Mqurice
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