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Politics : Evolution

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To: average joe who wrote (18879)12/30/2011 12:37:58 PM
From: Solon2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) of 69300
 
All educated people (and that includes educated christians) know that the Jesus of myth was born in 3 BC. As to the date of this "event", it has been variously calculated by the church to be Mar. 28, Nov. 18, or Sept.11...NEVER EVER EVER AS DEC. 25!!

Dec. 25 was, of course, the last day of the festival of Saturnalia where a gruesome murder was enacted as a human sacrifice. In the 4th century, the Christian Rulers legitimized the festival by incorporating the birth of Jesus into it and allowing the pagans to thus be assimilated without too much civil unrest. As can be seen below in paragraph 'B'--Christmas carols and the gingerbread man still reign, although nudity has been mostly discontinued. :-)

The media file below is a nice easy listening coverage of this issue, so only the willfully ignorant need continue year after year denying history and reality!

simpletoremember.com

audio.simpletoremember.com

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B. The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time. In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

C. In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it. Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

D. The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

E. Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia. As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes, “In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.” The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

F. The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3] Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4] However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

G. Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city. An eyewitness account reports, “Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators. They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”[5]

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