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Technology Stocks : Smartphones: Symbian, Microsoft, RIM, Apple, and Others

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (1289)3/3/2012 9:36:36 AM
From: Eric L2 Recommendations   of 1647
 
Symbian Belle Opinions ...

<< I guess I didn't make it clear that it wasn't my opinion for the phone (see below)... >>

You certainly didn't, but your own original opinions are probably at least as valuable as that of 'Alex' NoLastName. the self-proclaimed "gadget geek, editor, designer and developer for PluggedIn" who contributed the blurb you now belatedly reference:

"What is the 808? It is Nokia’s latest smartphone offering, boasting an unbelievable 41MP camera. It has set the tech world alight, and shows us just what phones will be capable of in the future. the specs for the 808 are nothing to write home about, and the device runs the outdated Symbian OS. But this device is more of a demonstration of what Nokia can do, so we hope to see the technology in Nokia’s Windows Phones before long."

You have appropriated the shallow utterance of an unheralded and virtually unknown member of the noisy and overpopulated pulp press making a comment of dubious worth in a rather uninformative post to a minor UK online website.

The bold in the above quoted paragraph is yours. The 808PV spec is here ...

developer.nokia.com

... and you may wish to 'expand all' and peruse it. In most respects the spec is pretty high end, higher end in many respects than at least 98% of the mobile devices sold through in the world today. If you examine it in detail, which I doubt Alex NoLastName did I suspect you'll agree that it is something "to write home about" and has several elements that are not supported in 99.9% of the mobile phones being sold today. I have already noted in the prior post some elements that are not ultra-high end.

<< the main point is why Symbian OS? >>

You asked that in a prior post and I replied to the best of my ability as a long time (8 year) Symbian user and an individual who has followed Symbian quite closely since its original formation by Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola, and Psion 14 years ago, and still follows it closely as a user and investor.

<< So that nobody will buy it cause people will know they are getting an outdated OS phone? >>

Now You are parroting Alex's "outdated OS" line, making Alex's opinion your opinion and attempting to forge a rather absurd conclusion (i.e. "nobody will buy it").

Symbian Belle which considerably improved on the S^3 UI was introduced last August and is shipping in devices today. Belle FP1 will improve the Symbian UX even further and was introduced this week and will initially ship in Q2 with service upgrades and point releases to follow. The Symbian OS will be supported until 2016. While the 808PV will almost undoubtedly be the last of a long line of best of breed Symbian imaging flagships that may constitute obsolescence to Alex NoLastName and you, it is not to me or many other Symbian users despite the fact that Symbian releases are being wound down and will soon end.

Presumably you are aware that while the Symbian user base has declined in the past year and that the iOS and Android bases have grown Symbian today still has the single largest global user base of any smartphone OS. Even though the base will continue to decline some portion of that base, and others looking for the most capable available imaging phone on the market will buy the 808 PV. The market for it may be somewhat limited, but there is definitely a market.

<< it's also thick for a phone... >>

It's certainly not RAZR thin, particularly at the camera bulge, but then again there are individuals in this world today purchasing and carting around outrageously wide uberphones with 4.5" to 5.5" displays that are referred to as smartphones but more appropriately should probably be called tablets. To each his own. As camera phones go, at 6 ounces it is rather heavy for a mobile device of today although not outrageously so. It is 25% heavier than my 4.8 ounce N8, and even my older and slightly heavier N86, but OTOH almost a pound lighter than my 12 MP Canon PowerShot SuperZoom digicam that stays at home more than it's out and about. Most serious camera buffs that complement a digicam or DSLR with a high end imaging phone for mobile use will tell you that the heft is an asset, not a detriment.

<< ... Unless WinP isn't fast enough or capable enough to drive that MP camera and process the data ...

The Qualcomm APQ8055 Snapdragon with 1.4 GHz Scorpion CPU and integrated Adreno 205 GPU ...

qualcomm.com

... used in the Nokia Lumia 900 WinPhone engine (and in Android and BlackBerry products) is plenty fast and plenty powerful but it only supports a 12MP camera and it has other I/O limitations as does the current WinPhone chassis spec it complies to and of course WinPhone OS 7.5 Mango software has its own limitations. Nokia designers simply had more flexibility and less limitations with the OS and primary ASIC they control and other components integrated with it to bring to market and introduce a new imaging technology that is (almost) ready for market, then they had with WinPhone and the hardware/software/firmware components of its engine. To Nokia's credit, they didn't wait.

Cheers,

- Eric -
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