They just got rid of an arch conservative Party Chief in China we should all be glad i've been told by connects there , then there's all the radical conservatives of militant Islam . Looking back to Janneus all the way down to the specifics you point to , what impresses in that sweep of time doesn't really ring a bell that there's some guiding hand behind all this , since it has happened with such frequent regularity all the way down the line .
Jews 80bc killing 60,000 of each other in some moral spats over rituals & dogmas along with the obligatory power struggles that accompany economic & geographical dominace always intrinsically tied in , which are fundamental basics of nature & territorial supremacy=survival of the culture . But wait , we have our own civil war 2000yrs later where 10 x's that lost seems a repeat performance , so a larger view of things reveals not much in the way of some accompanying divine guiding hand , more clearly a natural progression of the same forces at work churning inside of all of us .
Science is there to help , now that greggy brings up the moral issue of science involvement which they are doing more & more now as time moves on . Some one has to come up with more clarity & observations , they still have tribal murders all the time in certain cultures to this day , ancient prejudices & rivalries. We have gangs all over the US etc etc |