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Politics : Mainstream Politics and Economics
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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (21474)7/31/2012 6:05:43 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) of 85487
 
Making marriage something that only happens in a church would be something very new. I wasn't married in a church, nor were my parents or grandparents, nor were my children.

As for giving legal partnerships to "anybody", they already do that in many states. They're called civil unions and you may be one of the few people who think they're a solution. Gay marriage proponents DEMAND marriage. They don't even want civil unions ie legal partnerships. That's what the dispute in CA was all about. They already had civil unions. After they get marriage, actually they're not waiting for that, they're going to demand that everyone and every institution who disagrees with or disapproves of it be legally punished. From item 2 in this post.

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2. SSM is bad for civil society and business SSM will increase the power of the state to regulate civil society and business. Let me quickly summarize the evidence for this to give you an idea how it would work, using Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse’s testimony to the Rhode Island legislature.

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Far from limiting the power of the state, your version of equality has become a tool for the hostile takeover of civil society by the state. Churches are already under attack for daring to dissent from the new state-imposed Orthodoxy that marriage is whatever the government says it is.7

Parents are losing the right to direct the education of their own children.8 Foster parents in the UK must submit to the state’s views about marriage.9 Reputable adoption agencies have been put out of business.

And the pettiness of some of the complaints brought by same sex couples is simply staggering. Christian bed and breakfast owners have been sued for not allowing unmarried couples to stay in double rooms. They would have gladly rented them separate rooms, but that was not good enough for the thought police.10 Same sex couples have brought legal complaints against wedding photographers, as if there were a constitutional right to have your picture taken by the person of your choice.11

The details of the events she is describing can be found in the references for her speech.

Here are a few more examples of this infringement on civil society and business:


[ Now we can add Chick-Fil-A singled out for public denunciations and warnings of discrimination to come by prominent politicians in Boston, NYC, Chicago, the Dictrict of Columbia, and San Francisco.

The whole gay marraige issue isn't about rights or discrimination or tolerance, it's about getting a club for the state to destroy non-secular institutions and beliefs. ]

Notice how same-sex marriage impacts businesses, clergy, non-profits, etc. and even leads to polygamy. Once you decide that marriage is not about putting guidelines around sex and producing and nurturing the next generation, but about letting consenting adults do whatever they want, then there are no rules.
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