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Politics : Mainstream Politics and Economics

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To: TimF who wrote (24295)8/21/2012 4:47:19 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (3) of 85487
 
That whole post is so twisted it leaves me speechless. You need to go back to square one and rethink and relearn everything.

You would do well to listen to Wharfrat and Bentway for starts and try and understand what they are saying instead of fight them.

They are both smart, their facts are usually correct and their logic sound.

You can set your pride aside and learn from folks like Wharfrat and Benway or continue to live in a fools paradise.

Your decision.

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To: koan who wrote (24280) 8/21/2012 1:20:57 PM
From: TimF Read Replies (1) of 24323
You worked with a company, and they hired no blacks, therefore companies in general had no interest in hiring black workers, even when they could pay them less?

You realize that's a pretty non-nonsensical implied argument right? Or if your not trying to make an implied argument. If you don't think that the experience of the company you worked for meant much, then you yourself realize that that experience is pretty irrelevant.

If companies would generally refuse to hire black people, then there wouldn't have been any need (from the perspective of the segregationists) to pass laws forbidding them from doing so. But the reality is, that why business owners could also be racist (they where probably about as likely to be so as anyone else), some of them where not and others cared less about the racism, then about making money. Laws limiting who you can hire and who you can sell to, laws requiring duplicate facilities, or requiring you to treat some of your customers poorly, all raise expenses or reduce revenue, and so reduce profit.

All of which lead to companies fighting against Jim Crow laws (or at least the portions that affected the particular companies.

Even in Califonria racism was a huge problem, in the south it was pandemic.

And in the South its impact was significantly worsened by big government (on the state and local level).

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Rosa Parks and history

Oct 27, 2005
by Thomas Sowell

he death of Rosa Parks has reminded us of her place in history, as the black woman whose refusal to give up her seat on a bus to a white man, in accordance with the Jim Crow laws of Alabama, became the spark that ignited the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s.

Most people do not know the rest of the story, however. Why was there racially segregated seating on public transportation in the first place? "Racism" some will say -- and there was certainly plenty of racism in the South, going back for centuries. But racially segregated seating on streetcars and buses in the South did not go back for centuries.

Far from existing from time immemorial, as many have assumed, racially segregated seating in public transportation began in the South in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Those who see government as the solution to social problems may be surprised to learn that it was government which created this problem. Many, if not most, municipal transit systems were privately owned in the 19th century and the private owners of these systems had no incentive to segregate the races.

These owners may have been racists themselves but they were in business to make a profit -- and you don't make a profit by alienating a lot of your customers. There was not enough market demand for Jim Crow seating on municipal transit to bring it about.

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