Q. Mr. Rivera, I've seen -- I have seen your larger reactor in Baytown.
A. Yes, the one that you went with your expert in looking for buried pipes to see where I was bringing oil in from?
Q. The one that I looked at in Baytown, Texas.
A. Uh-huh.
Q. And I've seen pictures of that -- I guess that same reactor as it was set up in Natchez.
A. Excuse me, sir. You are assuming that it was the same reactor because A, you weren't there, you did not inspect it, you did not see it; and B, that is a very false impression, and I take exception to it because it is not the same reactor.
Q. Would you agree that it's similar to the reactor that was in Natchez?
A. I will agree that it is as similar to the reactor in Natchez as you are similar to the man sitting down at the end of the table because you're both -- well, I know he's a man.
Q. Thank you. And I've seen your mini reactor.
A. Which one?
Q. The one I saw in Baytown.
A. Very good.
Q. The 5-ton-a-day reactor, how would you compare it to the big one or the little one or both?
A. That is a multi-part question. If you would break it down to individual questions, I'd be more than glad to answer them individually.
Q. How did the 5-ton reactor compare in size to what you currently have as a mini reactor?
A. That is a very simple question to answer. And quite frankly, you know, I know I need glasses, but apparently you need your prescriptions filled, too, because the mini reactor is 5-foot long. And the production reactor is 65, 85, almost 90-foot long. So I would think that that would be inevitable to comprehend the two. I certainly couldn't sneak in the big reactor for the little reactor. Question No. 2, sir.
Q. No, sir, you didn't answer my question.
A. Oh, you said how do you compare them?
Q. My question -- my question wasn't how you compared those two.
A. Yes.
Q. My question was: How did the 5-ton-a-day reactor compare in size to the mini reactor?
A. Again, the mini reactor was 5-foot long. And the 5-ton-a-day unit -- and here again, I do not have any ironclad recollection of that, but I would say that it was 20- to 30-foot long.
Q. Thank you. Did it contain the same type of components that you have in your larger reactor today?
A. Please expound on the word "it," so I do not try to compare --
Q. The 5-ton-a-day reactor that you've been talking about it.
A. Does it have the same components as the reactor --
Q. I said does it have similar components.
A. It has similar components as the Model T Ford has to the 2008 Corvette.
Q. Did the 5-ton reactor have a length of tube down which the raw material was sent in a vacuum, and the temperature of it raised?
A. Did it have a tube where the temperature was raised?
Q. Yeah.
A. Yeah, but so does a shotgun.
Q. Mr. Rivera, you know what -- you know what the question is. Answer it.
A. You will address me in a civil tone, sir. I answered your question. And you, with an intimidating voice, you do not intimidate me, sir. You do not scare me, sir.
Q. Mr. Rivera?
A. And we will be civil here.
Q. It's pretty plain that you have taken a tone with me that will show up on the video.
A. Absolutely.
Q. Good. All right. When did you develop the first prototype of your batch continuous reactor?
A. About 24 years ago. Oh, excuse me. Here again, I apologize profusely for not listening to the question. Okay. I did not absorb continuous reactor. The first batch continuous reactor was first demonstrated to me some 24 years ago in Korea.
Q. All right. And when did you make your first attempt to create the same sort of thing in the United States?
A. I don't know, ten, 12, 14 years ago.
Q. All right. Was the first time you assembled something like that in Port Gibson?
A. No.
Q. Where was it, in Florida?
A. Yeah.
Q. In Daytona?
A. No.
Q. The Palm Beach area?
A. No.
Q. The Tampa area?
A. Yes.
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