Silent Coup?
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:19:36 PM by nevergore
There has been a series of unusual happenings in the senior military officer staff.
Supposition: If you were a senior military commander and seriously concerned with the direction of the country; with upcoming presidential elections, how could you ensure the current administration loses?
First, Find like minded senior officers I knew well and respected. Meet with them and devise a plan.
Second, I would find information so damaging to the current President that he could not possibly be re-elected.
Third, I would confront him with the information and demand he throw the election (not resign or we would have President Biden)
To accomplish this I would need the help of the CIA....Oh looky there, a recent appointee and former General....
You can see were this is leading, we just lost three high ranking Generals, one the recent head of the CIA. They are General Allen, Petraeus and Ham.
We watched Obama literally throw the first debate like a bought fighter in Atlantic City....Why? It wasn't altitude....
Then, perhaps Obama gained an upper hand. Information damaging to the conspirators.
We now have FBI Agents combing over homes for secret documents. We have outright character assassination of the Generals.....
Throw in Bengazi and we have a great novel in the making.....
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This story isn't just about sex....I suspect there is a much darker side.... One thing is for certain, we are not getting the complete story...
1 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:19:41 PM by nevergore
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To: nevergore
think Clinton with gobs of Chinese money flowing into the WH, THEN WE WERE SPOON FED MONICA for two months......
5 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:24:25 PM by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: nevergore
It is clear that the truth will be concealed. The Obamas and Mugabes, the Castros, and the Stalins, all have used the same techniques. Just as we have no clue as to Obama’s performance in college, we have no real clue to what is going down now. These tyrannical bastards do as they please and get away with it. Chicago mob politics.
6 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:25:10 PM by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
To: nevergore
All I can say is -
If you’re going to try to take down the king, you better to hell not miss.
There won’t be a second chance.
9 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:27:03 PM by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: nevergore
Seven Days in May 
10 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:27:08 PM by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Morris70
Congress has abdicated so much power to the executive branch that we don’t have checks and balances any more.
11 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:28:13 PM by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: nevergore
- 141% voter turnout in St. Lucie county.
- Absolutely NO votes for Romney in 59 Philadelphia precincts
Of course a coup is possible. We are a banana republic.
12 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:29:04 PM by kidd
To: nevergore
I mentioned to my husband the other day I believe there's a rift between the communist politicians in this country and the military. I believe there's a silent war going on between the two.
Because the government controls the military, the military personal have to be very careful.
18 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:36:11 PM by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Morris70
“Too many checks and balances in US.”
Not any more. We no longer have a Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution. We no longer have political parties willing to hold accountable their party’s members. We no longer have the will of the people to enforce the rule of law. We have become a land of freevies and everyone is in it for themselves.
Can you name a single time recently whereby an action was kept in check and changed? I can’t.
19 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:36:40 PM by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: nevergore
I think it’s an autogolpe, meaning “self coup.” This is when a legitimately elected (not saying that Obama was, just defining the term!) government takes over all of the rest of the government and proclaims executive power as the law of the land.
Eliminating enemies in the military is a big part of it, as is eliminating enemies in the judiciary.
20 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:38:42 PM by livius
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To: Jeff Head
Please add your literary perspective to the theory...
21 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:40:22 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore
Does anyone think that Obama would be competent enough to operate a coup?
22 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:43:12 PM by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: nevergore
Regardless of the Pentagon...and whether they’re “in” on it or not...there’s already been a coup against Flyover Country by the Inside the Beltway Oligarchy. That’s what the “election” was.
Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...now its..”they came and voted but the touch screen vote didn’t register”...the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...
Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.
breitbart.com
A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.
The very LAST thing the Bipartisan Oligarchy want or need is any semblance of Constitutional Federal Gov’mt or a clean vote.
Both those are up to We the People to cram it down their throats so hard in DC they will, someday, never do otherwise.
Absent a clean vote.....We the People are being taxed without representation..Ask George III how well that worked out!
Right now all that’s happening in the US Military is the weeding out of the few troglodytes left with qualms about Posse Commitas....
23 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:43:18 PM by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: TigerClaws
Just like it.
24 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:43:35 PM by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: livius
Thanks for the definition, saves me from googling :^)
Could be, but explain Obama’s first debate performance......
When you start looking through the glasses of conspiracy, many of the apparantly unrelated odd events start to make sense.
25 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:46:17 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Morris70
Nah...blackmail can and will always happen...we are not talking a violent overthrow....
Just a proverbial throw the fight or I’ll release the info.....
26 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:48:23 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Theoria
Do you think he’s actually the one running it? I think he’s just a figurehead.
27 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:50:01 PM by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: areukiddingme1
Yea...but my post was waaaay cooler :^)
Sorry Chief!
28 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:51:36 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore
I suspect the real battle is between the intel community and POTUS.
Obama is attempting to throw the CIA under the bus for Benghazi. Spooks in the past have demonstrated interesting ways of getting even with the boss.
Sort of how the hardest person to fire in any company is the HR Manager. They know where all the bodies are buried.
29 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:54:27 PM by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nevergore
I would like to know what happened to Major General Paul Vallely US Army (Retired)?
He was a major Obama critic and usually appeared as an analyst on Fox News.
I think the last time I read or heard anything about him he was holed up in Montana or out in the mid-west somewhere?
30 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:55:08 PM by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: Joe Marine 76
He’s situated in an undisclosed location....
Rendition?
31 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:00:02 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Morris70
Too many checks and balances in US. Won’t happen.Checks and balances work when there are two opposing entities to an issue.
In our case, the judicial, ruling legislative, media and academia are all the same ilk.
32 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:00:27 PM by llevrok (I haven't left America. It left me.)
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To: nevergore
Benghazi was being used as a prison site for radical muslims. The weapons used to free them were sent there by the American government, i.e., oboma. I think Petraous knows what Oboma did and who's side he took. That's pretty damning for a president - especially one running for reelection at the time. That's why Oboma is trying to discredit and destroy all those who know what went down.
Oboma said if the political winds blow, he'd ALWAYS take the side of the muslims - and he did. The prisiners are now free, and the Americans are dead.
33 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:02:57 PM by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: nevergore
The question then becomes...do these guys have ‘sacred honor’ and will they exercise at the hearings to show they were blackmailed by the democrat party? Not just 0bama...the entire party. Because if they had something on 0bama would they not have a sworn duty to come forward with it?
34 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:04:49 PM by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Morris70
Too many checks and balances in US.What checks and balances? Rogue president stays for four years, cannot be removed as a matter of course like a comparable executive i.e. prime minister can be removed in parliamentary systems. Checks and balances? 67% opposed Obamacare. It was passed, signed. In Switzerland it would have been overturned by popular referendum that citizens can organize to overturn such monstrosities. Here it is approved by the highest court of the land. How many hundreds of executive orders has Obama issued and what are the checks on them? Checks on EPA? On FDA? Given where the country has been going, checks and balances are a fantasy, and some kind of archaic received wisdom.
35 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:07:33 PM by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: concerned about politics
Obama lied, the Ambassador died!
Now eliminate those who oppose you in the military command....
36 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:09:20 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I suspect the real battle is between the intel community and POTUS. Obama is attempting to throw the CIA under the bus for Benghazi. Spooks in the past have demonstrated interesting ways of getting even with the boss.
Assuming that the actions against Petraeus are offensive moves by the regime, we should expect some counter move from the intelligence community in short time. Will we see an unexpected resignation soon? Or perhaps something else?
37 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:10:49 PM by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: kidd
We don’t grow that many bananas, maybe we are more of a watermelon republic or a cantaloupe republic, pineapple republic? Actually we are no longer any kind of republic, at least not the constitutional republic we were supposed to be.
38 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:12:24 PM by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: EBH
Strangely I have the sudden urge to rent Valkyrie and watch it one more time...
39 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:13:03 PM by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Theoria
No, but his handlers can. And he is more than willing to let someone else do his heavy lifting.
40 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:18:50 PM by LaRueLaDue
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To: CodeToad
Corruption and dereliction is live and well. Too many ways to block a coup for it to succeed. Except election fraud.
41 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:21:37 PM by Morris70
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To: ShadowAce; nevergore; Theoria
He’s definitely a figurehead or puppet. I doubt that he could even operate a coupe let alone a coup.
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42 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:22:00 PM by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: nevergore
Too many of the Brass are political animals and unable to be able to forge a concerted effort by working with each other.
43 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:22:00 PM by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: concerned about politics
I agree that it’s something more than “mere” incompetence.
BTW, according to a seemingly knowledgeable poster here, the prisoners were not just Libyans, but included some Iranians. This makes me wonder how many prisoners there were in total...but aside from that, I suspect that Obama had agreed with Ahmadinejad to spring his people (who I hope did not include the kidnapped nuclear scientists).
Obama wouldn’t be so upset about incompetence, because everybody already knows he’s a boob and nobody cares. There’s something else he’s trying to keep under wraps.
44 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:32:27 PM by livius
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To: trebb
The brass has always been political....but their bond is tight in certain cliches...
45 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:34:15 PM by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: livius
Maybe..........the prisoner was OBL.
46 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:35:45 PM by Toespi
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To: Morris70
Good evening. Welcome to FR.Too many checks and balances in US.
Won’t happen.
The Founders thought different. That's why we have the 2nd amendment.
5.56mm
47 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:37:40 PM by M Kehoe
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To: nevergore
I don’t think the US generals had gotten to the point of “coup” yet, and I don’t think they ever would or had even thought of it. However, the fact that several of them were obviously concerned enough about what was going on at Benghazi to “criticize” him indirectly by wanting to rescue our forces was probably enough in his mind to brand them as disloyal - to him, since he’s the only thing that counts in this country anymore.
I think they were intentionally removed, all in ways that impugned their character (spending too much money, having an affair, etc.) in order to make them less credible. I guess that’s better than being shot, though.
The people I think should watch their backs are Broadwell and her father. I think Obama has threatened Petraeus do much that even though Petraeus called his bluff with his resignation (but too late, alas), he probably will be like a lamb in his “testimony.” But Broadwell seems to be beyond his reach.
Watch for her to go to jail and possibly even be tried for treason for the “many classified documents” she had on her computer (she has a very high security clearance, btw). I think she’s going to be the scapegoat, because the generals, gentlemen that they are, are going to knuckle under to Obama.
48 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:40:33 PM by livius
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To: Toespi
OBL probably really is dead because by that time he was sick and of little use to Al Qaeda and seems to have spent his days viewing porn in his lair, in between dialysis treatments.
Relatively speaking, there wasn’t a lot of hysteria among the jihadis when he disappeared from the scene.
49 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:43:02 PM by livius
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To: nevergore
The dark side is that they all sat there and watch the murders, did nothing and then the supposed CIC got up and went to bed without a concern in the world. They wanted someone in Benghazi dead and watched while it happened to make sure that someone was dead. Question is, why?
50 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:49:17 PM by dandiegirl
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