UPDATE
“Tell you what brave sir. Send me your contact info and we'll arrange a meeting to discuss this man to man. You already have my personal email.”…”You have my number. Just give me a call you snivelling little coward”
Yes, I have just been looking back through some of your libels against me where you called me a rapist, a murderer, a wife beater, a pederast, a pedophile, etc. etc. etc. I think we do need to iron a few things out. I would like that very much.
I do NOT have your number--nor your address. And I would never permit you to dictate any meeting place, as I am fully convinced you are mentally ill. That is why it must be neutral ground.
I will be staying at the Bellagio from May 16 to 26. This should give you plenty of time to make arrangements. Stay under your name and (with your permission) I will look you up and we can talk.
But you must comply with one condition in order to make this a profitable meeting that holds any benefit for you. We will meet, regardless--but we will have a much more civil conversation and more congenial get-together if you confess to all of the following first. You must give a full confession of the libel and slander you have engaged in against me through your deliberate dishonesty and malice. And you will agree to all of the following--all of which are 100% accurate and true. Where there was any doubt or difference of opinion at issue, I gave the benefit over to you.
Confessions of Gregoree
I, gregoree, confess and admit the following:
1. Solon has never ever threatened me with physical violence. He once challenged me to back up my mouth after months of being provoked with the most serious libels and deliberate lies--where I accused him of being a rapist, a pedophile, a pederast, a murderer, a wife-beater, an adulterer--and whatever hateful and untrue thing came to my mind--but a challenge is a challenge. If his natural human response to my cowardice was a violation of SI, then the penalty meted out by SI was full and complete.
Solon also once said,
“I vote we go over and break a bunch of greg or ee's little pots..preferably over his libelous and empty little head! :-)
Oh wait! He isn't Catholic? Oh, but that doesn't matter, does it!”
Now let me make full confession: I knew very well that was not a threat and that it related to a discussion about Catholic Occult Compensation. But I hated Solon and as an opportunist and a Drama Queen I take every opportunity to misrepresent. I bawled to SI, but they only laughed at my fake and gratuitous histrionics.
When Solon posted that little mockery of me, it was after he and Ponokee had been discussing the dishonest and unfair practices of the Catholic Church in the matter known as Catholic Occult Compensation. The post was simple harmless patter intended to associate the ignorance and dishonesty of church doctrine with the ignorance and dishonesty Solon believes is my stock in trade. Mocking the Catholic Occult Compensation had nothing to do with any actual threat to me. It was one of thousands of jocular SI posts where the context made it perfectly clear. I was merely being an opportunist and trying to get Solon kicked off of SI. But SI laughed at me and said…what the F--K???
I have been trying for years to harm Solon with libel and other measures because he shreds my superstitious beliefs…and that in turn shreds me.
Here is what Ponokee had posted:
“This is a classic for justifying actions outside the normal course of business.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04186a.htm
Where do these nutbars come from?”
Here is the post where Solon segued his discussion with Ponokee into that joke!
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=27077837
And here is Solon’s further clarification after I opportunistically flapped my wounded wings and tried to misrepresent what he said as being a threat!
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?msgid=27085379&nonstock=False&subjectid=30630
In spite of all these facts, I have managed to opportunistically insert this--my Drama Queen Dance--probably 5 dozen times! After Solon bashes me around with Scripture I roll out the same old litany of deceit. I accuse him of threatening me, of harassing my wife at work, emailing my children at school, GOOGLING me--and anything else I can imply with cheap and sordid editorialising.
Now I have finally confessed that! And I feel better. Perhaps there is something valuable in the Christian confession after all!
2. Let me make it clear: Solon has never threatened my family. I made that up after he suggested that somebody should inform my church of the way I (Gregoree) spent my time sullying Christianity on the web with relentless personal attacks and steady streams of libel. I was really enraged when he suggested that it might be a moral idea to let the community know how 2-faced I was in libelling him with the ugliest lies and misrepresentations I could come up with…while I simultaneously played the part of a good scrub-faced Christian boy to church goers.
This is what he said:
“He used to use his real name on SI. He also has a blog which he has since removed information from. Ponokee and I knew him for years and know lots of things about him--although I've never met the Scumbag Piece of Shit.
“Next time I'm in his neighborhood I am going to drop into his church and show them a portfolio of his posts to me. I have already printed out the libellous ones from the last month. I want them to know what a Low Life Piece of Shit is in their congregation and working with their kids.”
3. I further admit that I segued Solon’s suggestion (that my community should know of the sort of 2-faced person who was living in their midst) with the completely fabricated allegations that he was threatening my kids at school and harassing my wife at her “place of employment”. Let me fully confess: Solon has never spoken personally or by email to me, my wife, or my kids, and has never threatened anybody that I know--or that I know OF. He DID suggest (as I have confessed) that informing my community of how I really was as a person would be a good and moral thing to do--and I DID get him kicked off of SI for that because they were unaware of how I had provoked the matter! Clearly, Solon was morally right by the standards of any community on the planet--but it was a violation of SI and he paid the price for that. So he is clear and even with them--and way way ahead in society and throughout the world where communities are indeed concerned about the people who live in their midst and who misrepresent who and what they are!
(I have also been kicked off of SI innumerable times, btw. But most people cannot be bothered reporting my infractions because misbehaviour and violation of my SI agreement and my Christian contract with Christ are the rule of the day for me).
I have already explained and confessed about the jocular post about the Catholic Occult Compensation. I made it all up because I hate him. I want to cause personal and business damage to him to the greatest degree possible. That is why I post this sort of thing to him which I have done (LITERALLY)...thousands of times.
“Question for you: Mr Solon-dusky: Are you sexually attracted to young boys?”
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readreplies.aspx?subjectid=30630&nonstock=False&msgid=27818741
4. Let me make a further admission:
I had posted, "I don't live in a subsidized house and I'm certainly not broke, but at least YOUR not writing me into your homosexual fantasies anymore. Baby..."
And Solon replied to somebody, “LOL!! From EEEeeek! He does NOT live in a subsidized house. He claims he is NOT broke. And he DENIES being a homosexual!! YOUR (sic) not serious!”
He continued to insult and mock my denials by saying that,
“in other news Google street view is losing market share to Bing maps due to their high error rates!!”
He put 2 exclamation marks to show even the most obtuse that--just as it was ludicrous to suggest that Google was not losing market share to Bing due to their (well-documented) high error rate--so all my denials were ludicrous, as well. (Yes, sometimes Solon will insult me back after I libel him as a rapist, pederast, murderer, stalker, etc.--all of which I have done, repeatedly)!
I tried to pretend that this comment meant that Solon was using Google (why not Bing? -g-) to look at my home. And then I realised I would also be admitting that I was a homosexual and broke and that my housing was subsidised!! So either I must admit all of those things…or I must admit (once again) that I take every occasion that presents itself to be opportunistic and dishonest to the max!
The funniest part is my implication that it is somehow illegal or immoral for Solon to use Google view!! But how else could he have known I was broke, a homosexual, and living on welfare?? AIEEEE!!
5. I admit that God punished David by getting Absalom to rape ten of David’s wives. I tried to pretend that God did not ordain the rapes but merely “permitted” the people involved to act in accordance with their nature rather than with Divine protection and control over their wills. I agree that this fails miserably in that God obviously already permits people to act in their own conscience and to take the consequences. This was an instance where he personally intervened and stated THAT he would punish and WHAT the punishment would be--the rape of David’s wife and the death of his child (which God carried out 7 days later). I also challenged the rape and tried to have it changed to adultery (how that makes God look better I really don’t know!) In any event, I admit I was wrong. God’s punishment for adultery with the wife or wives of your father is death for all parties concerned. David was the father of Absalom, so if the sexual intercourse was adultery, Absalom and all ten of the women would have been executed in accordance with God’s most holy commandment in Leviticus. Therefore, it was rape--and it was ordained by God as a punishment--just as the bible states.
6. I also admit that Lot had incest with both his daughters and got both of them pregnant two nights in a row. Either they raped him or he raped them. But it was rape and it was incest. Also, it is a fact that previous to this rape and incest, Lot had offered both his daughters to be gang-banged (and almost certainly murdered) by a vicious group of thugs looking for sex.
7. I admit that the command in
Deuteronomy
"but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take for a prey unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which Jehovah thy God hath given thee"
Is very clearly a command by God to RAPE and that it accords perfectly with other scripture where men, women, and children were butchered to the last breath but the VIRGIN YOUNG CHILDREN were kept alive to be raped. There is only one sense that women can be taken as “prey” by soldiers who have butchered the rest of the community. I know what that is. I admit that I lie when I attempt to sanitise these barbaric acts.
8. I also admit that I have deliberately used a comment Solon made (in kindness to another poster who was being attacked) as a weapon to attack, libel, and denigrate his wife and his family. Solon had said to that poster that his wife was “into” spiritualism and shamanism and signs from eagles and various animals (which, of course, IS to a large extent…spiritualism and shamanism!). Immediately after I attacked Solon’s wife on this innocent remark (and for several months thereafter), Solon explained that he and his wife were both very well educated and involved in the study of all religions including Nature Spirits and that he was an atheist and she an agnostic. Solon explained what I already knew: that studying something and working with people of various religious and spiritual beliefs does not translate into believing any of those thousands of superstitions and myths: that the fact that Solon and his wife are experts (for instance) in Greek mythology and world religions does not point to them being followers of either Zeus or Zoroaster!
In all of this, Solon has never once attacked my wife or belittled her. He is too much of a man to lower himself to my level. He reserves his contempt for what he finds contemptible. And Solon really despises me--I know that.
9. I have been mouthing a trite bromide I copied and pasted off the internet which says: ‘absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence.’ I admit, however, that this does nothing to make the life of Jesus any more plausible. As Solon pointed out through the analogy of Bertrand’s celestial teapot: The fact that nobody can see the alleged teapot circling the earth does not prove it is not circling the earth--but neither does it persuade any rationale for belief. Together with Occam’s razor and the indisputable fact that the Jesus mythology is embedded in a ridiculous mountain of absurdities, contradictions, pre-scientific nonsense, and ridiculous and risible stories…it becomes clear that the Jesus of the Gospels is a myth through and through.
As Solon made clear:
"John E. Remsburg, in his scholarly work on "The Christ," compiled a list of forty-two writers who lived and wrote during the time or within a century after the time of Christ and not one of whom ever mentioned him.
Philo, one of the most renowned writers the Jewish race has produced, was born before the beginning of the Christian Era, and lived for many years after the time at which Jesus is supposed to have died. His home was in or near Jerusalem, where Jesus is said to have preached, to have performed miracles, to have been crucified, and to have risen from the dead. Had Jesus done these things, the writings of Philo would certainly contain some record of his life. Yet this philosopher, who must have been familiar with Herod's massacre of the innocents, and with the preaching, miracles and death of Jesus, had these things occurred; who wrote an account of the Jews, covering this period, and discussed the very questions that are said to have been near to Christ's heart, never once mentioned the name of, or any deed connected with, the reputed Savior of the world."
THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!!
10. Let me now admit to being a complete degenerate and asshole. Because I cannot answer any of the points Solon makes by using Scripture to prove how superstitious, evil, and barbaric the bible is…I have resorted to simply attacking his character and trying to pretend he is deviant. How to do this? Well…I noticed his user name was Solon who was one of the Seven Wise Sages and also the renowned father of Western Democracy--but wait! All the ancient Greeks were in a culture which for about 1000 years considered pederasty to be the most moral and instructive initiation of young men into maturity. There were many reasons for this--not the least which was probably the continuous military experience. In any event, being unable to defend my superstitious beliefs I have instead taken to pretending that the ancient Greeks were somehow criminals like present day pedophiles and that Solon himself must be considered an immoral criminal for having a user name of one of the great Greek benefactors to civilization! Yes--I may be an immoral piece of shit, and I may be a gutless coward…but I AM brazen-aren’t I!?
Solon has made it clear that he is straight, but that he attaches no immorality to same sex relationships. He has made it clear that he supports the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This shames me, of course, because I, Gregoree, cannot support human rights and freedoms. My superstitious book states clearly that those people should be killed because they offend my invisible Sky Fairy. There…I have said it.
11. I have yet another confession to make. There were only 4 posts involved in the so-called threat Solon made to me 8 years ago. And two of those posts were not to me! In all, it was only a posting shit-fest of 52 minutes! But I have turned it into 8 years of whining!
Over the years, Solon has made his position to me very clear. Those 4 posts (2 of them to me, Gregoree) were in a 52 minute span on one evening 8 years ago. They were provoked by my lies and insults and threats. For example, when I called him a coward hiding behind a keyboard and intimated he would not be so big if I tracked him down, I was of course threatening him. Here is an example:
"Bring Moses or Aaron with you, Punk. You won't get a virgin if you win but you COULD destroy the power behind this thread, you punk. God is guiding you, you punk. THE CLIFFS."
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21370427
5/30/2005 1:10:39 AM The above post was a response to what I had just posted “You're a big man hiding behind a pseudonym and a keyboard”. In effect, I was calling him a coward and intimating that were I were to track him down he would not be so big (perhaps a foot shorter!). If I was to draw Solon out of "hiding" to meet me...I would do things to make him not so big.
All he did was do what any man would do under such provocation. He let me know that calling him a coward hiding behind a keyboard coupled with thousands of insults over many years of lying and libel, could be answered very easily if I chose to follow up on my sinister threats by simply meeting with him. He let me know that he would defend himself. That he was NOT HIDING BUT WOULD MEET ME FACE TO FACE.
I, in turn, did what any snivelling punk coward would do. I turtled out and I bawled to SI. And as we know--the squeaky squeaky wheel gets the grease (clever gregoree--me!). Then (for the next 8 years) I continued to do what any immature boy would do--I continued to libel and insult from behind my keyboard while periodically pirouetting on my Drama Queen dancing shoes by editorializing a 52 minute interchange of posts (only 2 of the four of which were to me!!) NOW HOW PHONEY AND PUNKEY (and very very clever) IS THAT!??
12. On 1/31/2013 10:43:19 AM I sent Solon a vulgar email where I accused him of "Going after my wife and kids" in which I was clearly intimating my intention to do violence to him. What he had really done (as has been stated before) was merely to suggest that leaving a record of my vulgar and libellous posting behaviour at the police station and the local church would be a service to the community. This was after he had endured months of personal threats against his wife and family and the most reprehensible and libellous fabrications I could come up with. Here is Solon's post.
Message 26695556
Here is a post where Solon itemises some of the despicable and scumbag things I had said about him and sets the record straight.
siliconinvestor.com
Some of the things I have done to Solon which I admit are criminal.
I have pretended he is a pederast.
I have pretended he is a pedophile.
I have pretended he is a rapist.
I have pretended he is a homosexual.
I have pretended he raped his wife.
I have pretended he committed adultery.
I have pretended he assaulted his wife.
I have repeatedly insulted his wife and family and mischaracterised and misrepresented her beliefs.
I have pretended Solon was a "male nurse".
I have pretended he visited my community and entered my church dressed in a trench coat. ("Myself, I have no idea what goes on in the sick minds of atheists like you or Eric Harris who walk into Churches to disrupt worship services, but usually they have firearms with them. "Do you believe in God?: BANG! You don't have a trench coat by any chance: do you?")
I have called his wife a "squaw".
I have pretended Solon was associated with NAMBLA.
I have pretended that Solon has sex with animals.
13. I must make one final admission:
Solon also said to me, once:
“Stop talking like an affected Queer. Talk normal. This thread is public. It is not one of your private "log-in" threads.
Get over your Drama Queen Histrionics. Your blubbering is just sickening! Read some of your posts!”
I will now admit to a correct analysis of this. (And it got several recs. How disgusting! I thought I was fooling people!)
“Stop talking like an affected Queer.” (a reasonable request)
“Talk normal.” (nothing wrong with normal)
“This thread is public.” (hmmm…he was right once again)
“It is not one of your private "log-in" threads.” (Emphasis. A public thread--not a private thread where admission is restricted, but a thread where expression of free opinion is allowed within the terms of agreement)
“Get over your Drama Queen Histrionics.” (well how am I, Gregoree, supposed to take that big a step??)
“Your blubbering is just sickening.” (Now that I am in admission mode, I must admit that Solon was--and is--absolutely right)
“Read some of your posts.” (Yes, indeed. Absolutely right. Thank you, Solon)
In conclusion, I confess that I created these false accusations and then continued to repeat, embellish, and editorialise them years and years after the fact solely because I cannot deal with his arguments from scripture which make God out to be a barbarian similar to those tribal barbarians who invented him. I felt my only recourse in doing the work of Jesus (given my lack of education and my character) was to attack him personally and libel him at every turn.
Having admitted all of these things I am now going to keep a long overdue appointment with him in Vegas where we may cordially set matters to rest. And may God have mercy on my soul.
Gregoree, the REFORMED"
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