I have maintained and provided specifics that it is the village/ community/govt ( an agent of the community) that produces a productive citizen. You maintain that it is the father "wedded" to the mother that is responsible.
You have provided one Example--Obama. And i agreed with that example and said it could be the same for others that way. Your example of E. Palo Alto only shows that it helped the property values in E. Palo Alto. It doesn't say anything about people on welfare. Indeed, there is opinion out there (not data) that it may have hurt them by forcing them to move because of rising rents.
For my case on the two parent family, I was referring to the data cited in the Heritage Foundation's sociologist's report on welfare--and the stats (which refers to many cases) are there for you to look at if you choose to--everyone else here has apparently refused--they prefer to dismiss the data without looking at the stats--they think they know the answer--which for them is that the Heritage Foundation's sociologist's report couldn't contain anything that was accurate. Like they have done any research on the the subject themselves and would know what they are talking about.
That data, however accurate, showed that the single most important factor in lifting a child out of poverty was marriage, and that is why the Heritage Foundation proposed that the welfare rules be changed to let recipients keep their full benefits if they got married---for it was better for the children of such recipients.
Now does this mean that other things besides two parent families can not work? No, it doesn't. Especially if a child has a 'strong village, like Obama had, to support him/her. My point being that the "welfare village" hasn't proven itself strong yet.
This doesn't mean we don't try to fix it, but if we find we can't fix it, in any practical matter, then it is better for the children involved in order to give them a better chance of having two parents, to end welfare going forward. This will force women either to have a job themselves or marry a man who has one before they have children--in most cases.
The values you talked about of having the pioneer spirit etc., also referred to a time when the two parent family was the norm for having and raising children---with a large extended family involved if possible. The best of two possible worlds.
Peace.
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