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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (230388)	8/30/2013 2:42:21 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) of 542202

They were controversial because there is whole cottage industry of advocacy groups devoted to keeping welfare in place when we/they should be studying what works to turn welfare children into productive citizens and how many of them percentage wise are achieving that goal. I gather this means you've read the serious social science research which critiqued Moynihan's thesis and know that the authors were driven by these motives. Of course you haven't. And you know, of course, that these "advocacy groups", as a large generalization, don't care about the children; only about keeping the cash flow coming. And you have studied them enough to feel comfortable making these assertions. As you show you know in more than a few of your posts, there is wide variation in the groups to which you are pointing, both as to motives and to capabilities. As for opposition within the social sciences to the Moynihan thesis, most of the published stuff examined the methodological basis for the assertion that ethnicity was the sole powerful explanation. I don't see how that portion of the Moynihan thesis is defensible. Certainly not on the basis of the chart displayed here.

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