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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE?

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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (5332)10/4/2013 4:16:43 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) of 5569
 
"That wasn't the catholic Church. It was the holy spirit moving in the hearts of believers for thousands of years. Job comes to mind."

So you our getting the Bible was something like it fell out of the sky into the hearts of believers fully written and fully edited and fully canonized by men and then fully preserved by these men. The Jesus ordained leadership was all meaningless in your mind. The ecumenical councils where bishops met to make critical decisions such as the Creeds, the canon of scripture, the trinitarian declarations were meaningless because they were not in the bible. So why do you believe in Father, Son and Holy Spirit since it is nowhere clearly said in the Bible that God is three persons in one God. Where in the Bible do you find that the all you need is the Bible with no leadership? Does it make any difference to you that Jesus chose 12 Apostles, anointed them, and gave them special responsibilities? Does it make any difference to you that the Apostles chosen by Jesus chose and anointed another Apostles when Judas killed himself? Does it make any difference that in the 15th chapter of Acts that the Church leaders held a council and make the decisions that was enforced on all local churches/

Your idea that Christ created a Church that only needed "the holy spirit moving in the hearts of believers" is not scriptural and not truthful. Even your local church and all Protestants Churches have leadership, but their leadership is self-appointed rather than apostolic. Each local church leader becomes, in reality, a kind of pope in deciding doctrines and beliefs and interpreting scriptures. That's why you have some 50,000+ Protestant denominations because each time there's a disagreement they split and start a new church.
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