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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster

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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (90052)12/12/2013 7:15:16 AM
From: bruwin9 Recommendations  Read Replies (8) of 103300
 
When I first posted on this board I did so because I had just heard the speech that Barack Obama, the President of the United States of America, made at the memorial service of Nelson Mandela.

I was truly impressed by the contents of that speech and had I been asked to pay tribute to Mandela (of course most unlikely) then I could think of no better way of expressing my thoughts and feelings based on the way that they were contained within the words that he used.

It then occurred to me that there are those who in no way support Barack Obama, and who are, in fact, openly hostile towards him.
I then wondered if those very same individuals would be prepared to separate their disdain and hostility regarding Barack Obama from what they thought of the contents of that speech.
And, if they thought that it was a great speech, would they be prepared to accept that fact and acknowledge it, irrespective of their regard for the orator.
I looked around for a suitable arena and chose "THE OBAMA DISASTER".

How I was received is on record.

No doubt some saw me as a torch bearer for Barack Obama.
That is not the case. I am not a United States citizen so there has never been the impetus on my part to study the man or his actions to any great depth or extent because his actions and decisions do not affect me in the same way and to the same extent that they affect citizens of America.

I am, however, prepared to say that had I been able to vote in the elections of 2008/2009, I don't think I would have voted for him, Primarily because I don't believe that he had, at that time, sufficient and suitable experience to be President of America.
My vote would have had Absolutely Nothing to do with his race, religion or creed.

In the header to this board are reasons why some believe Barack Obama should no longer be President of the United States of America. In addition to that there are numerous posts and opinions that have been displayed regarding his unsuitability because, among other things, he's "a pathological liar, borderline sociopath and a malignant narcissist".
All I can say to all of that is the following ...

If Barack Obama has done anything unlawful or something that he is not permitted to do in his position as President, and you feel that strongly and committed about it, then enter the Legal arena and have him face his accusers and let him be judged. Surely this is not an unusual step or action. It was done for Nixon and, to a certain extent, for Clinton.

And if the Courts are not the suitable avenue then approach your political representatives in government.
And there's no point in saying, "that will do no good, they're a spineless bunch, or a useless bunch, .... or whatever".
The fact of the matter is that they are there to Serve You, not themselves. That's what the Democratic Voting process is all about.
Maybe this is where a leaf could be taken out of Nelson Mandela's book ... he was not prepared to rest or give up in his attempt to achieve a better society for all, even if it took 27 years of his life to achieve that.

And next time elections come about do whatever you believe is humanly and legally possible to inform and educate the electorate so that they adequately scrutinize and interrogate the candidates to ensure that what they promise Before the election they will uphold After the election.

But if you are not that strongly committed to the future well being of your country that you will be willing to do whatever is necessary, within the legal boundaries of your Legislature and Constitution, then the following comes to mind ..... "Either Put Up or Shut Up".

I now come to the raison d'etre for this post ...

I have no problem with criticism or disagreement of those in government, provided the Office of that person is respected and the criticism or disagreement does not sink to the depths of being racist or similarly disrespectful.

When I saw the following posts of "John", viz. 90049, 90055, 90056, 90057, I was absolutely disgusted and appalled that anyone would stoop to that low level of "gutter press" expression.
I was also appalled to see that there was no reaction on the part of this board's moderator to deal with "John" and distance himself and this board from those posts.
In fact, what made it worse for me was the fact that the moderator supported it.

No doubt it will be said in this arena that Barack Obama and/or his wife are not worthy to hold their respective positions.
Well, that may or may not be the case.
But is that any reason to react in a way that is so disrespectful to that position of First Lady of the United States of America and, by inference, to the position of President of the United States of America ?

You may not like or respect Mr. or Mrs. Obama, for your own reasons, but at least have respect for the Offices that they hold as a result of the Democratic Process which, no doubt, you took part in.
There are many ways that one can voice or demonstrate one's objections but that certainly wasn't how it should be done ..... In My Opinion.

Having said all that, it only remains for me to say that this is my last post on this board.
I'm afraid I cannot be part of a group that resorts to, and apparently supports, that form of expression.
No doubt there will be those who will say, "Good riddance", or "Good to see the back of him", etc.., etc...
Well, that's your prerogative, and if that's what happens then the following also comes to mind ..... "Water off a duck's back".

And you might as well ban me too ....
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