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To: one_less who wrote (783569)

5/5/2014 9:04:56 PM

From: koan

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You may feel that way and you were doing great the first three paragraphs, but you fell apart on the forth one. I have never backed down form my position that capital punishment is always wrong no matter how heinous the crime and have said so many times.

So, please do not mischaracterize what I said.

I appreciate you sticking with the topic this long. We have challenged each other to validate our opposing positions, and at least from my perspective I have been able to clarify a great deal for myself in the process.

Your position remains that killing anyone (via capital punishment) is a barbarous practice that cannot be tolerated by modern societies, and we cannot with certainty guarantee the judgments in every case were not flawed, which further challenges the notion.

· This is a sticking point, which I have not been able to totally dismiss.

My position remains that the desire to produce just outcomes in every case should never be abandoned, as that would be the worst possible circumstance for society and that the current disposition of life sentencing does not satisfy the requirements of justice. And that Heinous Crime is a special category which deserves its own consideration.

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You have failed to produce a viable solution to heinous crime, which would meet the requirements entailed in a just outcome.>>

less: <<You have floundered and back peddled when pressured to show how ‘Life In Prison’ is a satisfactory solution, even to the point of attacking the premises of a just society.>>

koan: "I said clearly we needed to just deal with that problem. I was very clear on that."

koan: "Remember I spent 20 years in state government doing just that (read bio). And also remember we are the ONLY western democracy that still even has capital punishment, so the rest of the world has come to the same conclusion I have and the more advanced the country the more liberally they deal with sentencing.

less: "It doesn’t seem either of us has presented an argument that completely incapacitates the position of the other. We have limited our discussion to reason alone in attempts to avoid emotional involvement common to spiritual or religious considerations. If we did it would be a whole different discussion.

For my part I feel we have picked this bone enough.

Take care,

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