Ratan; I don't know what you guys are doing with the S&P futures, have never looked into buying or selling or shorting them.. I do know that some big sharks play these things, and they can trade in a heart beat..it's used as a hedge by some index managers they can munipulate it no end..as they know what stocks they are going to buy or sell, before they make the futures bet.. the big players have the inside feel..and thats why the market will early on follow the direction of the S&P futures..on most days, but they could lay a few bets the oposite way in the eve, then take them back the next moring and reverse the bet. If I was BIG enough and was going to sell a bunch of S&P stuff I'd go short the futures..if going to BUY I'd go long..thing is you don't know if I'm long or short the futures. With commisions and all I never could see any way to play these things, I'm to small a fish to get into this water. NOW the SPY tracks the S&P and is another thing..but I never short it..always buy..on up turns..in the long run you can hold the SPY and finally come out..you may have money tied up but don't bet with what you can't tie up..and while that money is tied up..if it's long enough the SPY at least pays you a dividend...shorting it can be a bad dream if the market takes off..I only momentum buy..with the S&P in one window and SPY in the other..I wait for the S&P to make a turn up from a good down swing..when it first turns up sometimes SPY will linger or even go on down..so I put a bid in after I see the S&P turn up..just below were the SPY is..if I get it good..if I miss it I haven't lost anything..if the S&P turns back down I kill the bid..and try again..but my playing SPY is via the internet. and fast and small time..bought 100 today at 95-1/4..if the futures are down Monday mourning I'll sell on the open at market, but I look for a rally Monday..maybe short lived but a rally is past due, and the WEBS on the AMEX looked positive for a change. If I'm right SPY will go up..I will sell her for sure Monday eve except if the AMEX webs end real strong then I'l hold, right now I got a 1/2 cushion How do you buy the futures ? not that I want any but it's intresting..be carefull, shorting them takes a lot of guts, more than I got, good luck..you may want to look at SPY..it trades just like a stock on the AMEX..runs about 10.03% of the S&P as a norm..if your fast you can sometimes get it at about 9.97%..and then have a small cushion...as if the S&P drops SPY seems to hesitate a bit it did not go down as fast as the S&P today..but did dip a little lower at 2:15 I pulled the trigger at 95-1/4 I think it went to 95-1/8 before it started up..trailing the S&P..in 30 mins I had my cushion..I held because the WEBS had reversed their direction and were going up also. Had they started down that would have also been a sell signal. What if I ran a big fund, and shorted S&P F before I sold, than as I started to sell off the stocks..and F droped, I coverded knowing MOnday I was going to buy back the stocks after I covered I bought the Fs..then monday morning when the pits total up orders before the market..and the clowns saw all the buy orders the futures would go up.. the big playes sure have a serious edge on these futures contracts. Jim |