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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (790999)	6/20/2014 6:12:53 PM
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"I have limited my argument to the hierarchy of human needs of which the most basic is survival, not self protection." You have done so in error, since it is natural rights not needs which were used as justification for the "Bill of Rights." The Bill of Rights is based on natural rights not on needs. I don't need a gun, you don't need a gun to protect yourself. We both have the right to protect ourselves in any circumstance where we could be harmed. I understand why that trips you up in such a way that you would rather talk about needs. I am happy to discuss needs but you and I can both see that natural rights leads to the logical conclusion of self protection being the foundation of all the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. "The basic element of survival is food and shelter...in some cases you might have to protect your food, but that is beside the point. Yes it is. Survival is a category of needs, you invented. It is not a need in and of itself. Survival is not even a category from your reference (Maslow's Theory). His theory begins with a category physiological needs, I presume this is what you are calling Survival needs: You can feel the need to breath. You can feel the need for food.. You can feel the need for shelter when you are effected by an unpleasant climatic condition or even shelter from social unpleasantness. It is actually a huge category which requires serious consideration. You have not given it serious consideration and are confusing issues. Needs are the basis of Maslows theory of motivation. Safety or Security is a higher level need, which you may feel the need to take care of once your physiological needs are met. In any event satisfaction of needs explains human motivation. It has little or nothing to do with the "Bill of Rights" except tangentially. "Your right to a gun doesn't appear until many thousands of years later and to this date the only animal on the planet that uses a gun is the human. That statement has no applicable logic except as a historical note.

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