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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: i-node who wrote (794000)7/8/2014 12:33:55 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1578459
 
>> Because you've created a straw man based on your biases; that the US is a welfare state. It isn't.

I'm not sure how YOU define it, but by any reasonable definition we ARE a welfare state --


No. Just no. Only by your definition and the five other wingers, including home school hanna, who recommended your post.

one in which a person can earn more by not working than by working would HAVE to encompassed by the definition of the term. And that is certainly a fact in the US as I've told you for a decade now. There is, of course, plenty of strong evidence to back up that position.

I don't know about Arkansas but based on my understanding of welfare there is no way in hell someone is better off on welfare than working in Seattle. NO WAY IN HELL. Now maybe its possible in Arkansas with its lower standard of living but not in most other parts of the country.

>> You don't know any of that..

I don't know people who are quitting are choosing not to work? I think I do.

>> its mostly anecdotal

Hardly. We have a figure approaching HALF of Americans who are on the public dole in some shape or form.


Yeah and that includes unemployment benefits [thanks to the Bush recession] and SS because people are retiring. And some of that 49% is double counting for SS and Medicare which go hand and hand. So then, when did a retirement pension that you paid for became welfare? You're a frigging idiot like most addled wingers.

The increase in recent years is likely due in large part to the lingering effects of the recession. As of early 2011, 15% of people lived in a household that received food stamps, 26% had someone enrolled in Medicaid and 2% had a member receiving unemployment benefits. Families doubling up to save money or pool expenses also is likely leading to more multigenerational households. But even without the effects of the recession, there would be a larger reliance on government.

The Census data show that 16% of the population lives in a household where at least one member receives Social Security and 15% receive or live with someone who gets Medicare. There is likely a lot of overlap, since Social Security and Medicare tend to go hand in hand, but those percentages also are likely to increase as the Baby Boom generation ages.

blogs.wsj.com


Disability fraud is rampant.


Really? You ever tried to get disability? Try it and then get back to me.

Food stamps are traded openly at 50c on the dollar.


Where? I want to turn them in.

A new health insurance law provides government subsidies for families of four making $94,000/year.

A link please.

Our labor participation rate is at the lowest in more than 40, almost 50 years;

Hey if Bush/Cheney had been doing their jobs instead of starting senseless wars we wouldn't have had the worst recession since WW II.

and the only job growth we have is "part time" work resulting from the latest welfare program, Obamacare.


Not true. The Labor Force participation rate is up YOY and we are on track for the best employment growth since the Clinton years. Please note that we skip right over the Bush years.

Our deficits are "unsustainable" SOLELY because of Medicare, SS, and Obamacare, and the interest on the debt they are adding. How is that anecdotal?

No. Just in your very paranoid and very biased mind.
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