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To: bentway who wrote (795638)7/19/2014 9:29:32 AM
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The stark reality of green tech’s solar and wind contribution to world energy

Posted on July 18, 2014 by Anthony Watts

Summed in in one graph that says it all.

Roger Andrews writes:

If decarbonization is to be achieved by expanding renewables the expansion will have to come in wind, solar and biomass. So let’s take hydro out and see how far growth in wind, solar and biomass has carried us along the decarbonization path so far:



[ And almost all of that is due to politically driven mandates. ]

Clearly they still have a long way to go.

Source: http://euanmearns.com/renewable-energy-growth-in-perspective/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/18/the-stark-reality-of-green-techs-solar-and-wind-contribution-to-world-energy/#more-113190

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Stephen Rasey says:

July 18, 2014 at 10:45 am

The top graph is very deceptive. It starts in 1965. That is much too late.

It should really start in 1665. THEN wind, water, and biomass were nearly 100% of world energy consumption. By the way, where is hydro power on that chart?

It was in the 1700's that humans learned how to replace charcoal with mined coal and wind and biomass were began to take a backseat to fossil and nuclear power.
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Robert W Turner says:

July 18, 2014 at 10:53 am

@Stephen Rasey:

If you want to live like it’s 1650 then by all means wind, biomass, and hydro power are all you need. Best of luck to you.

Hydroelectric was left off because its development is not being pushed for by the green zombies, they are actually opposed to it — for some good reasons — despite it being one of the best ways to generate electricity.
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Stephen Rasey says:

July 18, 2014 at 11:32 am

@Robert W Turner at 10:53 am
@Stephen Rasey:
If you want to live like it’s 1650 then by all means wind, biomass, and hydro power are all you need.


Which is precisely the point. The only way for wind, biomass and solar to approach any substantial fraction of 100 percent of energy consumption is to reduce our energy consumption to pre-industrial revolution, agrarian, water-driven sawmills and wind-driven grain mills and water pumps. When the well-off had a mule and the rich had a horse.

The graph should not miss the point. Wind, solar, and biomass used to be 100 percent of our consumption a couple centuries ago. We grew out of that. The chart should show that reality and history.
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[ A great new slogan for the Green movement: Back to the 1600's! ]

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