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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices
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To: combjelly who wrote (797121)7/26/2014 12:59:04 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) of 1582533
 
>> It should not be allowed any more, but claiming a people has a right ethnically cleanse an area because some of their ancestors lived there is just wrong.

Let me understand this. The Arabs want to "ethnically cleanse" Israel of Jews, but are unable to do so because they don't have the military power. That's fine with you. But if the Israelis want to remove people who create a persistent threat (via terrorism) to a reasonable level of security, that's not fine.

I don't know how you miss the absurdity of your position. It makes absolutely no sense.

The reason I have consistently refused to take the discussion back to ancient times is that a lot has happened over the years, and the British taking over the area called Palestine from the Ottomans seems to be a relatively well accepted breaking point. But if one wants to date it further back, the Jews had as much entitlement, probably more, than any other people. If righteousness had anything at all to do with it.

There was a fundamental difference between the Jews and the Arabs WRT the land of Palestine at the time of the British Mandate. The only thing that bound the Arabs was religion -- not any kind of attachment to the place as their homeland. The Jews, OTOH, had a valid claim historically as their homeland. And they were, of course, connected by the religion as well. The Versailles Settlements were not based on religion; they were based on claims to the homeland.

Still, the Arabs were offered an equity stake which they rejected. This was a turning point; they could have had a homeland but they didn't want one with Jews next door.

All Israel wants as far as anyone can show is a peaceful existence. Everytime there is some skirmish, Israel is probably going to take some more land. There has to be a penalty imposed on the Arabs for kicking dirt in the Jews' faces.

The Jews received their homeland back because they were organized enough to make it happen. It is really hard to blame for the Arabs' inability to get their act together.
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