Eric, Let the markets rule. You repeatedly say the economics of your dream schemes are superior to fossil fuels. If you actually believe that crap you would not get so exercised as the rule of markets will rule.
Bob,
Where electricity is expensive such as Hawaii and other places in the world PV generated electricity is already much, much cheaper.
No subsidies required in more and more places.
Just finished wiring up a system for a friend of mine in So California. He and I did all of the work. Total installed cost of about $1.10 a watt. Grid tied. He will add batteries later to have some redundancy.
His system is rated at a nameplate capacity of 12 Kwhr. He's getting a pure electric car and wanted excess generation to take care of it.
On days in the summertime he is easily generating over 50 Kwhrs per day.
Should easily zero out his utility bill over the course of a year.
Forgot to mention that the PV's on my off grid house built in 1991 are all still going strong. Not a single failure yet in that 44 panel array.. 23 years old this summer.
Electricity generated without a single moving part...
Eric
P.S.
Here is an email from one of my suppliers a few days ago:
No. of Pallets
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Container
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Diamond Jewelry Worth
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$1250
| | 14 and more | 20' Container |
$2500
| | 20 and more | 40' Container |
$5000
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250 Watt Sonali Solar Panels
 
| GRADE "A"25 YEAR MANUFACTURER WARRANTYModelDownload
DatasheetPrice
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PanelPricePer
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Container |
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12V Sonali Solar Panels
 | Perfect for off grid applications, RV's, boats, and educational purposes.ModelWattsCell
TypeDownload
SpecsPrice
Per PanelPrice
Per Watt|
| SONALI-80W | 80 | Poly |  | $75.20 | $0.94/W | | SONALI-100W | 100 | Poly | | $94 | $0.94/W | | SONALI-150W | 150 | Poly | | $141 | $0.94/W |
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34¢/W Thin Film Modules
FOR THOSE WILLING TO PREPAY
THE SALE PRICE WILL BE
34¢/W
 | ETA August 25th, 1 pallet min. |
ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetPallet
Price
(28 pcs)20' Container Price
(504 pcs)40' Container Price
(1008 pcs) |
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Solarfennel 285 Watt Solar Panel
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DatasheetSingle Panel
PricePallet
Price |
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32¢/W Sharp Thin Film Modules
 | 32¢/W
25 YEAR WARRANTY - CE - GRADE A
1 CONTAINER MINIMUM (420 PCS)
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12V Solar Panels
| | Perfect for off grid applications, RV's, boats, and educational purposes.ModelWattsCell
TypeDownload
SpecsPrice
Per PanelPrice
Per WattOrder
Online|
| SUN-15W | 15 | Poly | | $22 | $1.48/W |  | | SUN-50W | 50 | Poly | | $54 | $1.08/W | | | SUN-95W | 95 | Mono | | $93 | $0.98/W | | | SONALI-80W | 80 | Poly | | $75.20 | $0.94/W | | | SONALI-100W | 100 | Poly | | $94 | $0.94/W | | | SONALI-150W | 150 | Poly | | $141 | $0.94/W | | | ZBR-100W | 100 | Poly | | $98 | $0.98/W | Sold out! | | SUN-145W | 145 | Poly | | $136 | $0.94/W | |
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CSUN Solar Panels
 
| UL & GRADE "A"20' CONTAINER MINIMUM
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DatasheetContainer
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| CSUN255-60M | 255 | | 55¢/W |
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SUNTECH Solar Panels
| In Stock - Monocrystalline | 395 Watts 
LIGHTWEIGHT
| 58¢/W
IN STOCK IN U.S.ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetPallet
Price per watt
FLEXIBLE
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Thin Film Systems
4590W OFF GRID SYSTEM
Product
DescriptionQtyCostTotal
Cost|
| Tianwei 90W | 51 | $30 | $1560 | | 50' MC4 Cables | 17 | $35 | $595 | | MNEPV8 | 17 | $10 | $170 | | MNPV12 | 2 | $140 | $280 | | LA302DC | 2 | $40 | $80 | | LA302R | 1 | $40 | $40 | | DU221RB | 1 | $150 | $150 | | MNDC250 | 1 | $180 | $180 | | HU361RB | 1 | $75 | $75 | | XW-MPPT80 | 1 | $1295 | $1295 | | USP-225 Batteries | 24 | $90 | $2160 | | BC-1 Battery Cables | 23 | $7 | $161 | | BC-5 Inverter Cables | 2 | $35 | $70 | | XW4548 | 1 | $2698 | $2698 |
Price Per WattSystem Total Cost
5040W GRID-TIE SYSTEM
Product
DescriptionQtyCostTotal
Cost|
| Tianwei 90W | 56 | $30 | $1713 | | 50' MC4 Cables | 14 | $35 | $490 | | MNFUSE15 and Holder | 14 | $13 | $182 | | MNPV12 | 2 | $140 | $280 | | LA602DC | 2 | $40 | $80 | | LA302R | 1 | $40 | $40 | | DU221RB | 1 | $150 | $150 | | HU361RB | 1 | $75 | $75 | | SB5000US | 1 | $1998 | $1998 |
Price Per WattSystem Total Cost
FM-80 SPECIAL
| FREE SHIPPING TO THE LOWER 48 STATES
(IN STOCK)
MAXIMUM POWER POINT TRACKING (MPPT) BUILT-IN,
BACKLIT 80 CHARACTER DISPLAY
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ModelSizeWeightDownload
DatasheetSpecial
PriceOrder Online|
| FM-80 | 16.25" x 5.75" x 4.5" | 12.20 | | $530 | |
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Kisae Products
 Download Datasheet | IC121040 & IC122055
PERFECT INVERTER CHARGERS FOR BOATS, RV'S, HOMES AND CABINS.
TRUE SINEWAVE- PERFECT FOR REFRIGERATORS, MICROWAVE OVENS, COMPUTERS, TELEVISIONS, POWER TOOLS AND MORE.
High EfficiencyDetachable Display for remote controlHigh Surge CapacityETL listed
$312 (IC121040 1000W +40A Charger)
$432 (IC122055 2000W +55A Charger)
|  Download Datasheet | SW1210 & SW1220
PLUG AND PLAY SIMPLICITY
TRUE SINEWAVE- PERFECT FOR REFRIGERATORS, MICROWAVE OVENS, COMPUTERS, TELEVISIONS, POWER TOOLS AND MORE.
Compact DesignHigh EfficiencyHigh Surge CapacityUL Listed
$156 (SW1210 1000W)
$249 (SW1220 2000W)
|  Download Datasheet | MP100
LITHIUM BATTERY POWER PACK TO RUN LAPTOPS AND MOBILE DEVICES
Lightweight and portable designFeatures AC and USB outputs100w 2500mA Lithium Powerpack $148
|  Download Datasheet | PP800
LEAD ACID BATTERY POWER PACK TO RUN POWER TOOLS, TELEVISIONS, LIGHTS, COMPUTERS, AND MORE.
Lightweight and portable designFeatures AC and USB outputs800W Inverter26Ah Battery $198
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Just Arrived In Costa Rica
 |  NEW DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE IN SAN JOSE
180W MONOCRYSTALLINE SOLAR PANELS 24V
CALL 305-710-9645 FOR INFORMATION
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ModelQty
AvailableCell
TypeWattsPrice
Per Pallet|
| SUN-180 | 35 | Poly | 180 | 48¢/W | | SUN-200 | 80 | Poly | 200 | | SUN-180 | 490 | Mono | 180 | | SUN-200 | 7 | Mono | 200 |
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Outback Batteries
 Will Last 2 to 3 Times Longer Than Golf Cart Batteries
2 Years Replacement Warranty |
ModelTypeVoltageDownloadDatasheetPrice|
| EnergyCell 106RE | AGMsealed | 12 VDC | | $218 |
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250 & 300 Watt Solar Panels
Astronergy Solar Panels FOB CALIFORNIA |
ModelWattsDownload DatasheetPrice Per Container |
74¢/W Zebra Solar Panels
| FOB California
19 Panels Per Pallet
UL & CEC listed
Great for commercial and utility scale projects |
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ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetPrice
Per Pallet
Suntech Solar Panels
 POLYCRYSTALLINE SOLAR MODULE 25 YEAR SUNTECH WARRANTY OUTPUT TOLERANCE 0±3%
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ModelDownload
DatasheetPrice
Per PanelPrice
Per PalletPrice Per
Container |
Canadian Solar Panels
 
MAXPOWER CS6X IS A ROBUST SOLAR MODULE WITH 72 SOLAR CELLS.
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ModelDownloadDatasheetPrice
Per PalletPrice
Per 20' Container |
Sun Electronics low prices throughout the last 5 Years
YearModulePriceComments|
| 2009 |
GE 200W
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$1.10/W
| | | 2010 | Kaneka 60W |
$0.98/W
| First panel ever offered for under $1/Watt | | 2011 |
Evergreen
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$0.78/W
| First polycrystalline module offered under $0.90/Watt. | | 2011 | Sovello |
$0.68/W
| We set our own record for world's lowest PV prices. | | 2012 | JA Solar |
$0.62/W
| | | 2013 | Unisolar PVL |
$0.54/W
| First ever flexible panels below $0.78/Watt. | | 2013 | Sharp |
$0.50/W
| Lowest price ever for a tier 1 manufacturer. | | 2014 | Chaori |
$0.52/W
| A new world's lowest price on grade A polycrystalline modules. | | 2014 | Sun A-Si 90 | $0.34/W | The world's lowest cost A grade UL listed module. |
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