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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: epicure who wrote (265068)11/25/2014 2:16:48 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) of 540710
 
Let's look at these assertions about this case that you have "no idea why so many otherwise sensible liberals got suckered in on this case". And point to better cases. You want cases in which:

1. a criminal was NOT involved. Your assertion here is that Brown was a criminal but there have been no proceedings, he has no criminal record, we have only a video tape that would be evidence in a trial. So not a criminal. So, as of his killing, he was not a criminal. Looks like your kind of case.

2. the dead person was not intimidating, and there was no question of reasonable fear on the part of the officer. We, actually, don't the level of these things because we have no counter testimony from Brown. Only the police officer, who may well have exploded in anger when he shot Brown and then made the struggle look more intimidating than it as. We simply don't know. The physical evidence does suggest some sort of struggle but not the level. We just don't know.

3. the violence perpetrated by the officer was clearly excessive. The implication here is that Wilson's use of force was not clearly excessive. So far, everything I've read and heard, there was no provocation, even from Wilson's testimony that has been aired, that justified killing Brown.

I'm going to go back to my previous point. We disagree on this. But it's important to keep it as a policy disagreement; not go into some version of "people are just dumb for seeing this as calling for a trial."
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