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Politics : American Presidential Politics and foreign affairs
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Geoff Altman
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To: LLCF who wrote (71068)2/6/2015 12:56:56 PM
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>> Basically, the libertarians who voted for Obama are being shown to be correct... we are involved MUCH less in more stupid wars than would be the case with Romney or McCain... strange but true!

There is so much wrong with that comment...

First, libertarians do not automatically think all wars are bad. Wars are sometimes essential to solve otherwise intractable problems. One can argue about whether Libya or Iraq or even Afghanistan represented an intractable problem; but I doubt one can argue about whether ISIS or the general instability in the region does.

Secondly, there is little to lead one to conclude we are involved "much less in more stupid wars". For a lot of reasons, but the most important is that, historically, we know that strong leadership acts to prevent war and weak leadership encourages war. We've seen that with any number of US presidents as well as leaders in other countries who invited aggression by being weak and ineffectual. And the US has not had a president so weak and ineffectual as Barack Obama, at least in my lifetime.

I question whether you could call an Obama voter a "libertarian" at all, just simply because of the blatant use of propaganda, the opaqueness of his administration, and his willingness to use any technique to get around Congress. Most libertarians do see the Constitution as important I think; and what Obama has done to our Constitution is unconscionable.

So, the act of voting for Obama -- particularly in 2012 -- would pretty much disqualify a person from calling him or herself a libertarian, imo.
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