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Biotech / Medical : VVUS: VIVUS INC. (NASDAQ)

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To: Zebra 365 who wrote (3869)12/18/1997 10:18:00 PM
From: LoLoLoLita  Read Replies (1) of 23519
 
Zebra,

I think it may be useful to start a new discussion thread
exploring *other* systemic drugs (besides Viagra) that could
be synergistic with Muse or other locally-applied agents.

Leland mentioned yohimbine once in the CC, but I didn't hear
any followup either in the CC or on this thread. I can speak
from personal experience that yohimbine HCl, as well as a
number of other substances, can serve to enhance erections
and aid in prolonged intercourse in healthy males.

We all know that "sex sells" and that many people seek to
enhance their sexual pleasure using various assorted items
that are sold either openly or otherwise.

My question is based on the above observation, and I hope
that the medical types here are willing to listen.

Do you remember the launch of Prozac, and how it came into
much wider use than was expected? And witness the books
like "Listening to Prozac" by Peter Kramer, who argued,
more-or-less, that ordinary (i.e., not medically "ill")
people have the right to seek and obtain drugs like the
SSRIs if it enhances their well-being, despite the fact
that they may not fit the DSM criteria for depression,
dysthymia, etc.

Prozac and Paxil and Zoloft, etc. have been prescribed
mainly by the GPs, and not by psychiatrists. And many
of those GPs don't care squat about whether their patient
fits a DSM diagnosis to merit the SSRI prescription.
If they say their friend-husband-lover-whatnot tried
it and liked it, and that they want to try it too, then
a lot of those doctors are giving them the scrip.

So now to get to my point. Does anyone here see Muse
being used for sexual enhancement by males who don't
fit the clinical definition of ED in a manner similar
to what is common with yohimbine and cannabis sativa,
and other substances I'd prefer to not yet disclose?

This would require a doctor's prescription, and most
doctors (at least at first) would be very reluctant
to comply. But isn't that exactly what happened when
the SSRIs were launched? It was only after the first
year or two, when Paxil and Zoloft were also on the
market, that we saw the big jump in scrips. I may have
this wrong in part or in whole, and, if so, please
correct me.

But I think the potential demand for a proven sex-enhancing
product could go beyond the cohort of males with clinical
diagnoses of ED.

How many people here know of household pets who are
adminstered SSRIs? I know of two, and only one of
them got a scrip from their veterinarian.

Cheers,

David

P.S. There are a number of companies in Europe that sell
pharmaceuticals to U.S. consumers without requiring a
prescription. This is done under the 1988 "Pilot Guidance"
of the FDA which allows the importation of up to a 3-month
supply of unscheduled pharmaceuticals. One of the available
products of interest comes from the UK; it is sold as Prowess,
with the following ingredients in a capsule form:

Yohimbine hydrochloride, 5 mg.
Methyltestosterone, 5 mg.
Pemoline, 10 mg.

Note: Pemoline is listed by the U.S. DEA as Schedule 4,
but I can attest that at least one European supplier
currently offers it in the price list they mail to
U.S. consumers. Very few, if any, of these shipments
are detained at customs.
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