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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It?

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (182298)	6/17/2015 4:31:11 PM
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You've never asked me about ocean alkalinity. Yes, increasing CO2 in the atmosphere and keeping ocean temperature constant would increase ocean acidity (decrease alkalinity). This is where bias comes in. Warmers assume CO2 increases due to man and claim this increases the temperature of the atmosphere and oceans, but then apply logic to the oceans staying at a constant temperature and absorbing more CO2. It's flawed logic. Look up Henry's Law. If the ocean temperature rises (even for your man-made CO2 reason), it emits more CO2 and decreases acidity (increases alkalinity). It's a self-correcting system. Oceans have been warming since the last ice age, and they've been emitting more CO2. If the oceans cool, they'll absorb more CO2. We have no data on that; we just have ocean data since 1980's. That doesn't really help, since oceans have decadal variations in temperature and other properties. Besides, variations in ocean alkalinity on a monthly & annual basis greatly exceed any "predicted" changes from man-made CO2. It's another scare tactic. You post blog links. Here's a peer-reviewed paper documenting what I just said. journals.plos.org More research finding "no statistically significant linear trends [in pH] emerge in the upper 100 m" of the ocean. onlinelibrary.wiley.com Regarding a self-correcting system...if increasing CO2 leads to runaway feedbacks (your logic, not mine), then why would the Earth go in and out of ice ages? In other words if increasing CO2 causes the end of an ice age, why wouldn't this positive feedback lead to a runaway greenhouse effect? What stopped CO2 in the past and made the Earth go back into an ice-age? And regarding ocean alkalinity, I guess there were no ocean life during the Carboniferous Period (a.k.a. the dinosaur) era when CO2 was 1500 ppm?

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