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1974 : Guardian Warned Of A New Ice Age
Posted on December 30, 2015 by stevengoddard

The Guardian claims now that there never was an ice age scare. The one they said was coming fast in 1974.



https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/1974-guardian-warned-of-a-new-ice-age/

Gail Combs says:

December 30, 2015 at 10:59 am

The first well known scientist to ring the alarm bell with this view was Stephn Schneider from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (Science, June 9, 1971.)

page 14 Climate Con?: History and Science of the Global Warming Scare
By William B. Innes

The Global Cooling Scare Revisited (‘Ice Age’ Holdren had plenty of company)

….Recent attention has been paid to the coming Ice Age talk of John Holdren and Steven Schneider before they got global warming religion….

Here are some “global cooling” quotations and comments from an earlier era….

A selection from that list

Stephen Schneider, Back cover endorsement, Lowell Ponte, The Cooling: Has The Next Ice Age Already Begun? Can We Survive It (Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall, Inc., 1976).

“Our climate has swung wildly from severe warming during the Dust Bowl era of the 1930s to severe cooling during the 1960s. . . . The cooling is a fact.”

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“In the early 1970s, the northern hemisphere appeared to have been cooling at an alarming rate. There was frequent talk of a new ice age. Books and documentaries appeared, hypothesizing a snowblitz or sporting titles such as The Cooling. Even the CIA got into the act, sponsoring several meetings and writing a controversial report warning of threats to American security from the potential collapse of Third World Governments in the wake of climate change.”

Stephen Schneider, Global Warming: Are We Entering the Greenhouse Century? (San Francisco: Sierra Club Books, 1989), p. 199.

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“Some climatologists believe that the average temperature in the Northern Hemisphere, at least, may decline by two or three degrees by the end of the century. If that climate change occurs, there will be megadeaths and social upheaval because grain production in high latitudes (Canada, northern regions of China and the Soviet Union) will decrease.”

– Reid Bryson, “‘All Other Factors Being Constant . . .’ A Reconciliation of Several Theories of Climate Change,” in John Holdren and Paul Ehrlich, eds., Global Ecology: Readings Towards a Rational Strategy for Man (New York: Harcourt, Brace Jovanovich, 1971), p. 84.

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Gail Combs says:

December 30, 2015 at 3:26 pm

Again Marty practices sexism!

He does not even bother to READ the TITLES much less the articles before attacking and thus makes a complete fool of himself.

In the 1960s a respected geologist in his native Czechoslovakia, George Kukla, counted the layers of loess….

A more definitive confirmation of Milankovitch came in 1976, in a paper by Hays, Imbrie and Shackleton, using Shackleton’s data in the figure above. But long before either that paper or my own, there was widespread behind-the-scenes acceptance of Milankovitch, and Kukla, for one, was concerned about the implications.

Kukla warned President Nixon

Those who rewrite the history of climate science to suit the man-made global warming hypothesis hate to be reminded that global cooling and the threat of a new ice age rang alarm bells in the 1960s and 1970s. In the Orwellian manner they try to airbrush out the distinguished experts involved, and to say it was just a scare story dreamed up by stupid reporters like me.

No, we didn’t make it up. I was present in Rome in 1961 when global cooling was already the main concern at a conference of the World Meteorological Organization and Unesco (see the Unesco reference). The discussions were led by Hubert Lamb of the UK Met Office, who went on to found the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.

A persistent concern of Lamb and others was that the world might return to a Little Ice Age like that of 300 years ago….

You catch that little Alarmist Troll?
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Kukla warned President Nixon!!!!
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The result was the 1974 CIA report: “A Study of Climatological Research as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems”
And that report says point blank.

“… Since 1972 the grain crisis has intensified…. Since 1969 the storage of grain has decreased from 600 million metric tons to less than 100 million metric tons – a 30 day supply… many governments have gone to great lengths to hide their agricultural predicaments from other countries as well as from their own people…

pg 9
The archaeologists and climatotologists document a rather grim history… There is considerable evidence that these empires may not have been undone by barbarian invaders but by climatic change…. has tied several of these declines to specific global cool periods, major and minor, that affected global atmospheric circulation and brought wave upon wave of drought to formerly rich agricultural lands.

Refugees from these collapsing civilizations were often able to migrate to better lands… This would be of little comfort however,… The world is too densely populated and politically divided to accommodate mass migration.

Page 18 talks of coming glaciation.
Scientists are confident that unless man is able to effectively modify the climate, the northern regions… will again be covered with 100 to 200 feet of ice and snow. That this will occur within the nexy 2,500 years they are quite positive; that it may occur sooner is open to speculation.

Not a damned thing about Schneider’s and Hansen’s attempts to blame mankind.
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markstoval says:

December 30, 2015 at 11:40 am

I have actually argued (debate not possible) with educated people who claim there was never a “new ice age scare”. They say that there may have been a little idle speculation and a few Hollywood movies but that is all. But I was there! I was in university at the time and it was conventional wisdom that an ice age was coming.

By the way Tony, they were right. They had the timing wrong, but there is an ice age coming. Interglacials don’t last forever.

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markstoval says:

December 30, 2015 at 12:36 pm

Note that the warming eras have all been less warm each time during the holoscene.

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/gisp-last-10000-new.png?w=578&h=396

markstoval says:

December 30, 2015 at 12:37 pm



Morgan Wright says:

December 30, 2015 at 1:10 pm

Hey cj, if you think 2015 was warm, just wait to see 2016. There is no telling how much data tampering Gavin will do right before Trump fires him in January 2017
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