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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: jlallen who wrote (914222)1/13/2016 8:29:39 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (2) of 1575820
 
Re: "America Does Not Have a Gun Problem....."

You quote that of 32,000 gun deaths a year, 10,560 are homicides...and that 80% are gang related, ie 8,448.
The facts say you're FOS!!

From: huffingtonpost.com

So, do we have a gang problem or a gun problem? Data collected by the National Gang Center, the government agency responsible for cataloging gang violence, makes clear that it's the latter. There were 1,824 gang-related killings in 2011. This total includes deaths by means other than a gun. The Bureau of Justice Statistics finds this number to be even lower, identifying a little more than 1,000 gang-related homicides in 2008. In comparison, there were 11,101 homicides and 19,766 suicides committed with firearms in 2011.

According to the Federal Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP), the number of gangs and gang members has been on the rise for some time now, increasing by more than one-third in the past decade. Between 2010 and 2011, for example, there was a 3 percent increase in the number of gangs, but an 8 percent decrease in gang-related homicides. If gang violence was truly driving the gun homicide rate, we should not see gang membership and gun homicide rates moving in opposite directions.

The 80 percent of gang-related gun homicides figure purporting to support Loesch's claim, then, is not only false, but off by nearly a factor of five. The direct opposite is necessarily true: more than 80 percent of gun homicides are non-gang related. While gang violence is still a serious problem that needs to be addressed, it is disingenuous to assert that the vast majority of our gun problem (even excluding suicides) is caused by gangs.

One more thing......your math sucks......the 0.0001025% chance of death by gun is 2 orders of magnitude off, Using the numbers you quote it would be 0.01015%...your math expert forgot to multiple the ratio by 100 to get %.....same is true for the 0.000008564 mumber, it is really 0.0008564%. No big deal but just illustrates that facts don't matter to gun nuts...
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