Hi Bob, Please forgive me if I gave the impression that I would condemn
anyone.That is what I am coming against I believe God is the only judge of
us all. I can see you have a desire to reason the scriptures and I may be a
little
jumpy . I still can see that it is difficult for us to come into agreement
because we are close and far. Surely you are not implying that Moses was in
Hades until Jesus went to bring him out. Have you read the account of Lazarus
and the rich man. Where was Abraham and the beggar? Is that Hades? I would
like to have the verse about Moses being seen after the death of the Lord.
In Matthew it says that holy people were raised and came into the city but
not Moses. The reason I have a hard time with this is that Moses grave has
never been found and no mention of him being buried is ever made as it is
with Abraham and David and all the other Patriarchs so they believe he will
come with Elijah to announce the Messiah. The 2 witnesses in Revelations
would fit this anticipation. To gain salvation there is no exceptions male,
female, slave, free, Jew or Gentile, but just as God has an order for
men and women He has it with other areas as well. As I said before Jesus
Kingdom does not Lord over one another but it is a Kingdom of love and
respect for one another so there is no dominance just proof of His
faithfulness.In
Romans 3:1-4 Paul says;What advantage is then, is there in being a Jew or
what value is there in circumcision? Much un every way! First of all , they
have been entrusted with the very words of God. What if some did not have
faith? Will their (Israelis) lack of faith nullify Gods faithfulness? Not
at all Let God be true and every man a liar. Also, Simeon says He will be
the Glory of His people Israel. Do you also believe that the Church is the
true Israel
of God in Old and New Testament. That is really hard for me to buy. It just
doesn't fit. Why wouldn't God just make everyone the same if He wanted it
so.To me the ultimate anti-semetic act is the Church desiring the Jews to
just
blend in and disappear and nullify Gods faithfulness and the New Covenant
made with the House of Israel and Judah. Sounds to me like that would give
satan a tremendous victory. In Timothy we see that all scripture is God
breathed
and good for instruction. So how can so many Christians not even read the
Old Testament. They tell me all the time that Covenant (as if it were just
one covenant) is obsolete. It is not going to affect salvation for God is
true and
faithful but there is meat here to move on to. Relationship is my focus,
the ones in Matthew that cry out Lord, Lord, did we not do all these things
in your name? What is His response? I never knew you. So doing and preaching
and posting means nothing without a personal relationship. That is what is
missing on this thread not you but so many to me are trying so hard to
prove a point that they are not encouraging a relationship with Jesus. That
is what
breaks my heart the most for the lost is the lost relationship with the One
I love so deeply that my entire being is consumed in Him. How could I not
want that for everyone and people respond more to that than they do a fear of
hell or whatever maybe in another life that is not even real to them yet
because they are not filled with the Spirit. I could never think that
anyone if they truly understand what is involved would not want to be
saved. To me there
are at least 2 problems 1 is Jesus said He speaks in parables so they will
not hear and be saved.and the other is this poor representation of love and
relationship with a Lord that can give them peace that the world can not
give and love that is real. I have said before if I were to read this
thread as a non-believing Jew I would not want any part of it. As a
believer I wonder why I continue for it is not edifying for me. I guess I
desire to reason the scriptures. I sincerely do not want you to feel that
because we disagree that I condemn or think badly of you for I fear God and
Yeshua says that even if we slander another believer we are a murderer, so
please forgive my weariness and pray as I am that the Lord will allow us
all to come to some type of agreement that will bring Him Glory.
Nancy
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