| | | There Is No Word To Describe This" - The Energy Forward P/E Multipe Is Now Off The Charts
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/25/2016 15:31 -0400
(I making these two chart nice AND BIG so no one misses them!!)
The project forward 12 month Price Earnings Ratio's are higher on every sector except for healthcare which is equal and the telecom sector which is projected to be slightly higher. And, or course, the energy service sector is a moon shot.. right up there with the .com bubble of 1999-2000.
Back in January 2015, when we looked at the utterly disconnected fundamentals of the energy sector, we were stunned to note that the forward 12-month P/E for the Energy sector has risen above 22.4, the first time it had done so since April 8, 2002. On that date, the closing price of the Energy sector was 225.15 and the forward 12-month EPS estimate was $10.05.
Our amazement was contained in the following summary: "using the S&P Energy Sector Index data, the sector's forward multiple is now an absolutely ridiculous, mindblowing 23x."
This was 14 months ago. Where do we stand now?
The snapshot answer comes courtesy of the latest Factset weekly earnings insight, according to which as of this moment, the forward P/E of the Energy sector is no longer "an absolutely ridiculous and mindblowing 23x".... it is, in fact, more than double that at 58.7x, which also happens to be more than four times higher than the 15 year average.
There is no longer a word to describe the lunacy where the forward P/E multiple was literally "off the chart" until the Y-axis was doubled.
Where it gets even more surreal is when looking at the forward energy sector P/E (as defined by Bloomberg) charted over time. Yes, we laughed long and hard.
What is beyond strange is that while forward earnings have imploded in just the past three months, prices of energy companies have actually gone up as the next Factset chart shows! In other words, the market's discounting mechanism is not onlyl broke but is now going in reverse, where the worse the projected earnings, the better for stock prices.
However, this type of disconnect - especially when it is as glaring as this - never lasts.
In that vein, one year ago, when oil had first crashed hard and when the S&P energy sector was trading at 550, we calculated that " Either Oil Soars Back To $88, Or Energy Stocks Have To Tumble By Over 40%" Energy stocks indeed tumbled, and at one point the drop was nearly 40% as predicted, but have since jumped higher on more artificial central bank manipulation of prices.
Unfortunately for those buying, this rebound won't last because while central banks may have goosed asset prices, they have failed to stimulate the price of the one all important commodity, the one which flows through to earnings: oil.
Which leads us to a redo of the simple calculation we did one year ago: what does the current disconnect between the price of oil, energy stock prices and valuations mean? The answer, like last January, is simple: either the long-term PE multiple is now null and void, and the "New Normal" forward PE of not only 20x+, but almost 60x, is "realistic", which of course is ridiculous, or there are two alternatives:
- Energy sector earnings have to surge by 275%, implying oil prices have to more than triple to $148, for the forward P/E multiple to return to normal, or
- The Energy sector price has to crash from 461 today to 123 where it would trade down to its historic forward 14x P/E multiple, suggesting a price drop of over 70%!
This is shown visually on the table below:
We'll let the algos decide which option works.
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thanks to Hawk for posting this ......
I think this needs some serious consideration.... We have to see if the US FED is going to go ahead and raise interest rate 2 more times this year ... as they are telling us they will and it will trigger the famous "Three steps and a stumble" rule made famous by the late market expert Edson Gould.
A well known rule on Wall Street that was developed by the late Edson Gould and implies that after three consecutive rate hikes the equity markets are likely to stumble, that is, enter a bear market
financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com
This also is along the theme of the very brilliant Dr. Martin Zweig who had the famous Maxim "don't fight the FED"
the FED has not raise rates three times yet and possibly will not Momhamed El-Erian has an excellent missive on why we are in for roller coaster markets.. He has a very constructive missive on the increase and expansion of the range of volatility in risk asset markets that I will see about posting online tomorrow...
Here is the link to it
bloombergview.com
I was at a church service tonight that lasted from 8:30 pm until 10:30... the lightening and thunder appeared on
at the right place for dramatic emphasis twice in the service. ( the church has a long slender sky window that goes along the ascending roofline.
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