SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : Value Investing

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: Micah Lance who wrote (57053)4/1/2016 11:55:39 AM
From: Paul Senior2 Recommendations

Recommended By
E_K_S
LukasSavickas

  Read Replies (3) of 78702
 
A lot of implications to your question.

Of course you received some suggestions here as to how to spot and avoid "funny accounting"

You say you are concerned you might miss something "painfully obvious". I found that that happens to me occasionally. Always after the fact: company has problems, they get highlighted in the media, media pundits point out that "almost anybody" could have seen it coming. So obvious. (Otoh, of course, the many analysts who might be following the stock didn't see it or report it, nor did the large shareholders/mutual fund holders/hedge funds.)

How much effort do you intend to make in "reading a balance sheet"? You are starting out investing with maybe not much money. Therefore you likely will want to concentrate your efforts on a few stocks. So maybe spend a decent amount of time researching/studying each stock you will buy. You can't afford to let something "painfully obvious" kill your small portfolio. Yeah, you'll avoid a few bullets studying the balance sheet -- no assurance that you will avoid all the bullets though. Imo, the only sure way to avoid clunkers due to "funny accounting" is to not buy any stocks at all.

Another thing: In my view value investors are paid to take pain. I generally buy stocks when they are down or dropping. And they often (usually) continue to fall after I buy them. Plus, there's some time that's usually required to own them before their prices improve. So it can be painful to hold. My point is that one way or another, if you own value stocks you're going to endure something "painfully obvious". You can't get away from it. Obviously though you want to mitigate it, so you could use the suggestions others have mentioned here. But if you intend or expect to eliminate pain from your value investing efforts, you may be disappointed.

I maintain a large/diversified portfolio. Every year I'm surprised to find I have one or two stocks where the company turns out to be fraudulent or has issues where if only I had read something or researched deeper I should've/could've known to avoid the stock. So I'm a person who's lost money on Enron, World Com, Health South, Valient, Linn, and others. In the totality of things, these losses from accounting shenanigans haven't been significant enough to really harm my portfolio.
Nor were they the most serious problems/losses that I have faced (market preference/legal issues/technology changes/poor business model/macro economics being more of an issue).

Imo, if you are really concerned about missing something painfully obvious in picking your own stocks, and starting out with a small bankroll, you might just be better off not worrying and not taking all the time trying to determine the unknowable about the few companies you are interested in. You could be (maybe) better off using your time now in your career and building up your investing monies in mutual funds. Maybe not as much fun, but maybe safer.

Of course I don't know you, your interests/goals or risk tolerance or bankroll. So my opinions could be totally misplaced and wrong. (I've been wrong many, many times.) I guess I am just saying it's not been worth being overly concerned about missing something that could be "painfully obvious". (You asked for "any particular insight" and this is mine (just mine), based on my experience.)
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext