Taoman wrote: "Saying the same thing over and Over and OVER does not make it true. No matter how many times you say it, you can't make more Reg S. shares than there already are. And you can't turn long holders into day traders. And you can't get everyone to sell when your TA says so."
Feltburner wrote: "Sorry, Tech, you are not correct. While I've erred before and will again, this was not one of those times. Reg. D offerings DO indeed INCREASE the number of shrs. outstanding and thus cause dilution. This info. comes from both a VP of Corp. Finance at a regional brokerage firm, as well as from the IAIC private placement memorandum which is structured as a Reg. D offering and increases the shs. outstanding by the number of shs. being offered. This would not be a big deal except that you have trumpeted this misinformation time and time again on both threads as if it were fact. In the future, it would be decent of you to make sure of your facts before stating them repeatedly, and especially before correcting someone who disagrees."
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Perhaps someone owes this thread a big APOLOGY?
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Tech wrote and wrote and wrote...
12/26:
taoman, I keep having to say the same thing over and over, because people like you want to distort the facts. I don't know how many times we have discussed the difference between Reg. S and Reg. D, but people still like to post that they are the same.
Dear JDN. As I have stated before, a Reg. D offering would of served the same purpose without adding the dilution of Reg. S.
12/23
bob, >> Regulation S. shares <<
Every time Bob Gruder makes an offering in the form of Reg. S., it is a slap in the face of all the shareholders. If he wanted to do the deal so bad, he could of done it with a Reg. D. or other type of offering that doesn't instantly dilute the stock.
Reg. S - are newly issued shares.
Reg. D - come out of the total outstanding.
12/22
These shares, if they were done in the form of Reg. S. (which I assume they were), added instant dilution to the stock.
12/10
You have to remember that Reg. D Shares don't come out of the float.
Sixth, You are clearly lacking in any knowledge of what private placements and regulation D offerings are as they compare Reg. S. offerings. You throw out wild accusations which are inherently false and which only intend to cause confusion. If I remember correctly you were told the difference about this once before, yet you are making the same false accusations again.
11/25
This is a registration statement. There are 2.9 million shares being registered and the owners of those shares can sell them if they wish. This is no different from all the 144 filing ALYD has done.
These shares do come out of the current outstanding shares, and therefore, there is no dilution. The public float will increase as these shares are sold.
11/18
To all a little for Tech Master and ALYD.
Reg D. Shares vs. Reg S. Shares.
Reg D.- These shares are registered by the company and come out of the total outstanding.
Reg S. - These shares are basically like bonds that are later converted into stock. These shares DO NOT come out of the total outstanding. Reg. S. shares are often used to cover short positions taken in the particular company that issued them. Since they don't come out of the outstanding it is a double whammy for the other shareholders of the company because it also causes dilution. |
